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Did I not say that when you give these government-can-do-no-wrong authoritarians evidence of thousands of cases of government abuse...they just write it off because it didn't happen to them personally?
I'm not wasting my time anymore.
You never had a case. Linking to a 2005 report about the FBI not correctly implementing a process has NOTHING to do with the patriot act and you know it. That's like attacking Iraq when you were attacked by a terror network based in Afghanistan.
If that 2005 report makes you feel all fuzzy, that's cool but that FACT still remains that you, nor I have lost nothing as a result of the Patriot Act.
I'll repeat, you are the most dishonest poster on this board. "Now" was 6 years ago and the mishap was due to the FBI not properly implementing the freaking Patriot Act. Again, who lost what, who's numbers were they, what adversely happened to a citizen? Where are they? Where are the law suits? Please stop twisting this old story about the FBI into the Patriot Act taking something from you..
THERE REMAINS ONE DOCUMENTED CASE OF SOMEONE BEING ADVERSELY EFFECTED.
I'm a fairly liberal guy but I've never understood all the whinnig about the patriot act. I've never heard of anyone having any negative personal experiences as a direct result of the patriot act. Has anybody? If you're doing nothing wrong it appears that you'll be just fine which is true for about 99% of the population. It's been in effect for several years and I hear so many complain about it but nobody that's actually been effected by it. It sort of goes hand and hand with airport body scanners and/or pat downs. THe extra 1-2 minutes it takes me to take my shoes and belt off has never caused me any trauma but I hear so many whine incessantly about it. Well, that's until something goes BOOM..Anyway, just my thoughts, flame away at your leisure.
“Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely.â€
Just as another poster stated, You give them a finger, and they'll take your whole arm, thanks to silly knee-jerk responses.
LOL..Do a quick search of my post since I joined this board..I find it hilarious so many liberals can't believe a liberal doesn't walk in blind lockstep. Sitting on this side of the fence on this one issue has shown me a side of liberals that I really didn't expect. Maybe we are as bad as conservatives about some issues. It's really sad actually.
how old are you? i just can't believe someone is so naive.
don't get it twisted. there are a lot of questions that don't have easy answers whilst talking politics and many people even those who generally agree on most things will find many things to disagree about.
but a program that encourages racial discrimination is not generally one of them. but whatever, you can believe what you want.
I'll repeat, you are the most dishonest poster on this board. "Now" was 6 years ago and the mishap was due to the FBI not properly implementing the freaking Patriot Act. Again, who lost what, who's numbers were they, what adversely happened to a citizen? Where are they? Where are the law suits? Please stop twisting this old story about the FBI into the Patriot Act taking something from you..
THERE REMAINS ONE DOCUMENTED CASE OF SOMEONE BEING ADVERSELY EFFECTED.
Where are the lawsuits? The government claims "state secrets" ...to have the lawsuits thrown out. The merits of the claims are never heard. It never gets to the point that citizens can present their case.
It's painfully apparent you know nothing about this issue.
how old are you? i just can't believe someone is so naive.
don't get it twisted. there are a lot of questions that don't have easy answers whilst talking politics and many people even those who generally agree on most things will find many things to disagree about.
but a program that encourages racial discrimination is not generally one of them. but whatever, you can believe what you want.
LOL, I'm far from naive and not very young.
What encourages racial discrimination? WTF are you talking about? The Patriot Act has nothing to do with race. What EVIDENCE do you have to support that claim? You call me naive then throw that junk out there, please.
Where are the lawsuits? The government claims "state secrets" ...to have the lawsuits thrown out. The merits of the claims are never heard. It never gets to the point that citizens can present their case.
It's painfully apparent you know nothing about this issue.
You know nothing about nothing because there's nothing to know. You just make up whatever it is to suit your belief. The FBI utilizing the wrong procedure to issue NSLs in 2005 has nothing to do with the Patriot Act. That's just the fact of the matter and you know it. The IG did it's job and you haven't heard a peep in 6 years. You can call that authoritarian, I call it, working.
What encourages racial discrimination? WTF are you talking about? The Patriot Act has nothing to do with race. What EVIDENCE do you have to support that claim? You call me naive then throw that junk out there, please.
i really don't understand where you're coming from. the patriot act has nothing to do with race? really?
i'm pretty sure others have already posted links. me posting more likely won't change things.
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