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That driver get's a "C -" for observation! The much shorter car that preceded him dragged it's belly and he should have seen that and said NO WAY WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT IN THIS BARGE!!
Doesn't anyone think to check the route before blindly setting out?
It was a mechanical failure. Caddy's, like every other lead-sled for the past 25 years has a ride leveling system. Some are pneumatic, some hydraulic, some servo. All are prone to failure. Watch the front wheels and you'll see the wheels jump right up into the wheel well. Just a front suspension system failure. It happens... particularly on GMs.
It was a mechanical failure. Caddy's, like every other lead-sled for the past 25 years has a ride leveling system. Some are pneumatic, some hydraulic, some servo. All are prone to failure. Watch the front wheels and you'll see the wheels jump right up into the wheel well. Just a front suspension system failure. It happens... particularly on GMs.
It was a mechanical failure. Caddy's, like every other lead-sled for the past 25 years has a ride leveling system. Some are pneumatic, some hydraulic, some servo. All are prone to failure. Watch the front wheels and you'll see the wheels jump right up into the wheel well. Just a front suspension system failure. It happens... particularly on GMs.
Not quite. Something triggered the defense mechanism which caused the front suspension to pancake. Notice in the video that even before the limo had bottomed out (before the thud), that the front wheels had been raised and tucked into the fender wells. Sophistication of another level...
Not quite. Something triggered the defense mechanism which caused the front suspension to pancake. Notice in the video that even before the limo had bottomed out (before the thud), that the front wheels had been raised and tucked into the fender wells. Sophistication of another level...
Clearly your knowledge of suspension systems is far greater than mine. It's not as if I made a career and comfortable living out of designing and installing such systems on both track and luxury vehicles. So, for the less knowledgeable like myself, could you please explain how such a defense system would operate? Thanks.
As to the front suspension being tucked, I'm sure the incline angle and associated weight transfer had nothing to do with it.
I'm certain also that the fact that GM has had a number of service bulletins over many years for precisely this type of failure also had nothing to do with the failure. But since you're obviously more in the know than me, you have no doubt already seen those SBs and determined through careful scrutiny of the video that it was in fact part of a defense system to blame and not a failure common to that particular manufacture of vehicle.
I bow to your superior knowledge and stand corrected.
Joe: do you really think that tank has the standard GM air-ride technology under it that may have been the subject of any GM recall notices?
C'mon now, we should assume the weight of that barge renders everything from regular "A" arms to ball joints being useless in that application. There is probably enough armour plating underneath that thing alone to make it necessary to have more than one bag per corner.
Be very surprised if it isn't hydraulic and not even pneumatic at all!
That driver actually "goosed" it a bit thinking he could skid it over that hump and when it finally ground to a stop over-centered, all of the armour and ancillary's equipment weight in the front end sent the ass-end for a ride that the riders will not soon forget.
The retarded driver actually gets out and looks down at the front end like: WTF? He should have driven the entire route beforhand in rent-a-car and seen that hump first thing as a point of concern!
Hell; independent security contractor's would never have allowed that to happen in such an obvious spot.
Wasn't there a secret service personnel on the opposite side of the road prepared with his little earpiece and sleeve mike to tell the driver the car in front dragged it's belly? If not, why not?
On second viewing of that first vid-clip. I am forced to agree with front suspension collapse but I still don't believe anything under that car, from tires to suspension components, would resemble anything of standard GM items subjected to recall notices in any shape or form.
That thing is gonna weigh in excess of 10K with just the armour plating underneath it alone, never mind the frame rail cross section thickness to sustain that length of wheelbase with all of the associated armour weighting of it's side panels.
I'd be willing to bet the weight of the glass panels alone would exceed a GM Siveradoes 3500 GCWR!
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