Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
View Poll Results: Do you support major cuts to Social Security and Medicare?
Yes and I lean right 13 27.08%
No and I lean right 8 16.67%
Yes and I lean left 4 8.33%
No and I lean left 23 47.92%
Voters: 48. You may not vote on this poll

Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 05-24-2011, 01:34 PM
 
13,186 posts, read 14,959,871 times
Reputation: 4555

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by rogerbacon View Post
People should have an option to opt out of these programs and not have their taxes deducted to fund these programs. For the money that is taken out of our paycheckes we could do a much better job of investing it and see a better return. If we were allowed to put some of that return into medical savings accounts (tax free) we would do far better than those people on medicare.
Nope. I'm not going to pay for freeloaders when their money runs out because of their stupidity. This is a basic safety net program that keeps elderly off street corners begging for food.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 05-24-2011, 01:48 PM
 
3,566 posts, read 3,728,790 times
Reputation: 1364
Quote:
Originally Posted by nan5623 View Post
Should Social Security and Medicare be cut?

he** no...
Sorry to have to break the news to you, but Medicare has already been cut. Obamacare cuts $500 billion out of Medicare over the next 10 years.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-24-2011, 01:49 PM
 
13,186 posts, read 14,959,871 times
Reputation: 4555
Quote:
Originally Posted by JimMe View Post
Sorry to have to break the news to you, but Medicare has already been cut. Obamacare cuts $500 billion out of Medicare over the next 10 years.
Sorry, you're referring to "Medicare Advantage" which was a rip off to seniors and taxpayers. Good riddance.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-24-2011, 02:03 PM
 
3,566 posts, read 3,728,790 times
Reputation: 1364
Quote:
Originally Posted by padcrasher View Post
Sorry, you're referring to "Medicare Advantage" which was a rip off to seniors and taxpayers. Good riddance.
Cutting Medicare Advantage (whatever you may think of it--millions of seniors seem to prefer it to standard Medicare) is only a small part of the proposed cuts. The bigger part is cutting reimbursement to doctors and hospitals, thereby ensuring that fewer seniors will be able to find doctors willing to treat them.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-24-2011, 02:04 PM
 
13,186 posts, read 14,959,871 times
Reputation: 4555
Quote:
Originally Posted by JimMe View Post
Cutting Medicare Advantage (whatever you may think of it--millions of seniors seem to prefer it to standard Medicare) is only a small part of the proposed cuts. The bigger part is cutting reimbursement to doctors and hospitals, thereby ensuring that fewer seniors will be able to find doctors willing to treat them.
But that didn't happen under the Obama's health care bill. Cuts were coming already under existing law in place under Bush and Clinton in effect since 1997.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-24-2011, 02:05 PM
 
4,696 posts, read 5,812,167 times
Reputation: 4295
No people paid into these programs. Instead we should cut Medicaid, welfare, etc.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-24-2011, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
24,869 posts, read 24,354,678 times
Reputation: 8672
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian Scates View Post
Should Social Security and Medicare be cut?
Depends greatly on what you mean by "cut".

I want the retirement age for both programs to be raised, and adjusted with the every average life expectancy every three years.

That would make both programs funded, practical, and safe for many decades to come in the least, probably fix them for life.

But completely changing the programs, giving the option for an "opt out" just won't work. Everyone that opts out will be old and sick one day. They will demand healthcare, and we'll give it to them, and then everyone then will pay for it, instead of that person paying a portion throughout their working life.

And if they are hungry, or need a home, we'll give them that too.

Social security and medicare already do this, and keep everyone paying in a little bit. Just adjust when your benefits start, no big deal.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-24-2011, 02:24 PM
 
13,186 posts, read 14,959,871 times
Reputation: 4555
Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis1979 View Post
Depends greatly on what you mean by "cut".

I want the retirement age for both programs to be raised, and adjusted with the every average life expectancy every three years.

That would make both programs funded, practical, and safe for many decades to come in the least, probably fix them for life.

But completely changing the programs, giving the option for an "opt out" just won't work. Everyone that opts out will be old and sick one day. They will demand healthcare, and we'll give it to them, and then everyone then will pay for it, instead of that person paying a portion throughout their working life.

And if they are hungry, or need a home, we'll give them that too.

Social security and medicare already do this, and keep everyone paying in a little bit. Just adjust when your benefits start, no big deal.
Cool. So when you lose your job at 58 after decades of hard work...you can just suck it for another 10 years in the soup line...LOL

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/20...e-out-of-work/

Right wingers are too macho and too loyal to the ultra rich and military in this country to ever thing about them having to sacrifice a little more.

They'll just make it harder on all the old lazy workers ants who don't deserve a stable life after working for 50 years.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-24-2011, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
31,767 posts, read 28,780,752 times
Reputation: 12341
Quote:
Originally Posted by workingclasshero View Post
the budget is 3.7 trillion...our revenue (thats from ALL sources) is 2.1 trillion...thats a budget deficit of 1.6 trillion
The revenue shouldn't be $2.1 Trillion right now. It should be a LOT more than that, as it should have been every year since it was $2.1T last time around (2000). Tax cuts ARE a problem. Spending? Yes, that is a problem too. Let tax cuts expire and cut spending... the only logical steps towards working for a solution in the longer term. Anything else is simply playing political games.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-24-2011, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Dallas
31,290 posts, read 20,703,722 times
Reputation: 9324
Quote:
Originally Posted by kevinm View Post
There should be a means test for SS.

No. There should be a "how much did you pay in" test.

SS is a user funded retirement plan. It is not a wealth redistribution plan.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top