Democrat wins House election on Medicare issue (borders, solution, speech)

[shorebaby]

Originally Posted by Winter_Sucks

Debt commission report. Google it. Doesn't' kill Medicare.

I suggest you Google it. The debt commission also recommends capping benefits, reducing physician reimbursement 23%, and cutting corporate taxes. Indexing doesn't get to where we need to be.

[Smash255]

Originally Posted by skoro

Brown's up for re-election next year too, isn't he...

Yup, and the conservatives who loved him so have turned on him (although it should have been obvious from the start Brown was a moderate based off his record in the State Senate). Brown, btw has come out against Ryan's plan.

[Winter_Sucks]

Originally Posted by JazzyTallGuy

I give him an F for logic but an A in attempting to bullsh*t people.

It's just what he has to tell himself to keep a fictional narrative alive.

[Winter_Sucks]

Originally Posted by shorebaby

I suggest you Google it. The debt commission also recommends capping benefits, reducing physician reimbursement 23%, and cutting corporate taxes. Indexing doesn't get to where we need to be.

Does it kill Medicare like Ryan's plan?

[shorebaby]

Originally Posted by Winter_Sucks

80% oppose the Republican plan to kill Medicare. NY-26 was the canary in the coalmine.

You can repeat " killing Medicare" as much as you wish it doesn't make it so.

80% of Greeks don't want cuts either.

Greece is the real canary in the coal mine.

[pghquest]

Originally Posted by Winter_Sucks

Why is private health insurance inflation rising faster than Medicare inflation?

Its not. The government sets the UCR, ICD9, ICD10 rates that medicare pays, but because medicare pays less than the costs, the "losses" have to be passed onto the insurance companies to pay.. Just because medicare isnt paying what they should be, doesnt mean they somehow manage costs better.

That would be like me not paying my mortgage, and the mortgage company telling you that you have to makeup my non payment, and when its all done with, you saying I manage my expenses better than you even though I'm broke..

[shorebaby]

Originally Posted by Winter_Sucks

Does it kill Medicare like Ryan's plan?

By your definition of kill, yes it does. According to you, fundamental change equals kill. The debt commissions recommendations are certainly fundamental change.

[Winter_Sucks]

Originally Posted by shorebaby

You can repeat " killing Medicare" as much as you wish it doesn't make it so.

80% of Greeks don't want cuts either.

Greece is the real canary in the coal mine.

Let's see, Republicans want to give tax cuts to the rich and to oil companies and to pay for that they kill Medicare.

Democrats are saying cut spending some, tax some more, and make small modest changes to entitlements.

I feel comfortable taking that debate to the people in 2012.

[Winter_Sucks]

Originally Posted by shorebaby

By your definition of kill, yes it does. According to you, fundamental change equals kill. The debt commissions recommendations are certainly fundamental change.

The debt commission is structural change. The Republican plan is to kill Medicare. There's a big difference.

[SLCPUNK]

Originally Posted by skoro

Tonight's special election in a heavily Republican district went to the Dem candidate despite the GOP dumping over $3 million into the campaign. This district went overwhelmingly GOP just last November. And the district has been overwhelmingly Republican since the mid 1800s.

But that was before:

a) Lee, the incumbent Republican, sudddenly showed up in half-nude photos in on-line dating sites, forcing his resignation.

-and-

b) The GOP has decided that Medicare needs to go in order to continue funding tax breaks for big oil.


Interesting...

The GOP overreached with Medicare and the Dems are going to clobber them over the head with it in 2012.

This is what happens when a party embraces (once again) the crazies, rather than lean towards the center. Ask Newt how that attempt went for him...