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solytaire, please do us all a favor and read some of the studies about the psychology behind rape.
lol..Studies can be conducted to support anything.. Even if those studies are revered by quacks the world over, no offense but I think Ill pass and think for myself on this one...In all honesty, I find it impossible to respect the findings of those studies when they deduct something that seems so blatantly illogical to me and what appears to be the majority of voters in this poll.
Chances are if they are in prison, they are not your average citizen. Most likely the one that rape are violent and think nothing about harming another person. These men who are locked up are already mad at the world. It's more about a sick power issue than sexuality. Prison world isn't the same as your outside world. The rules are different and make no sense.
How about men who rape the elderly or very young infants? Chances are they are not aroused by them sexually. Once again these men are not normal.
unfortunately the gay lobby has forced made it that if a man rapes another man because the second man is gay it is included as a "hate crime".
for example the case of Felipe Rivera
here's another example Guilty Plea In Assault Of Gay Man - Hartford Courant
It IS a hate crime. That is not changed by the fact that the perp may be gay himself.
In fact, it's quite possible that sexual confusion is often a motivating factor in anti-gay hate crimes. Doesn't change the fact that they are anti-gay hate crimes.
This is a lame thread for many reasons, not least of which is that your actual point (such as it is) is buried several posts down.
Chances are if they are in prison, they are not your average citizen. Most likely the one that rape are violent and think nothing about harming another person. These men who are locked up are already mad at the world. It's more about a sick power issue than sexuality. Prison world isn't the same as your outside world. The rules are different and make no sense.
How about men who rape the elderly or very young infants? Chances are they are not aroused by them sexually. Once again these men are not normal.
No, not specifically in prison. It happens outside prison as well. Apparently straight men have been using rape of other men for thousands of years - to humiliate, dominate, control etc.
From the National Centre for Victims of Crime (http://www.ncvc.org/NCVC/main.aspx?dbName=DocumentViewer&DocumentID=32361 - broken link):
Historically, the rape of males was more widely recognized in ancient times. Several of the legends in Greek mythology involved abductions and sexual assaults of males by other males or gods. The rape of a defeated male enemy was considered the special right of the victorious soldier in some societies and was a signal of the totality of the defeat. There was a widespread belief that a male who was sexually penetrated, even if it was by forced sexual assault, thus "lost his manhood," and could no longer be a warrior or ruler. Gang rape of a male was considered an ultimate form of punishment and, as such, was known to the Romans as punishment for adultery and the Persians and Iranians as punishment for violation of the sanctity of the harem (Donaldson, 1990).
Nicholas Groth, a clinical psychologist and author of Men Who Rape: The Psychology of the Offender, says all sexual assault is an act of aggression, regardless of the gender or age of the victim or the assailant. Neither sexual desire nor sexual deprivation is the primary motivating force behind sexual assault. It is not about sexual gratification, but rather a sexual aggressor using somebody else as a means of expressing their own power and control.
Much has been written about the psychological trauma associated with the rape of female victims. While less research has been conducted about male rape victims, case research suggests that males also commonly experience many of the reactions that females experience. These reactions include: depression, anger, guilt, self-blame, sexual dysfunctions, flashbacks, and suicidal feelings (Isley, 1991). Other problems facing males include an increased sense of vulnerability, damaged self-image and emotional distancing (Mezey & King, 1989).
Male rape victims not only have to confront unsympathetic attitudes if they choose to press charges, they also often hear unsupportive statements from their friends, family and acquaintances (Brochman, 1991). People will tend to fault the male victim instead of the rapist. Stephen Donaldson, president of Stop Prisoner Rape (a national education and advocacy group), says that the suppression of knowledge of male rape is so powerful and pervasive that criminals such as burglars and robbers sometimes rape their male victims as a sideline solely to prevent them from going to the police.
There are many reasons that male victims do not come forward and report being raped, but perhaps the biggest reason for many males is the fear of being perceived as homosexual. However, male sexual assault has nothing to do with the sexual orientation of the attacker or the victim, just as a sexual assault does not make the victim survivor gay, bisexual or heterosexual. It is a violent crime that affects heterosexual men as much as gay men. The phrase "homosexual rape," for instance, which is often used by uninformed persons to designate male-male rape, camouflages the fact that the majority of the rapists are not generally homosexual (Donaldson, 1990).
Many people believe that the majority of male rape occurs in prison; however, there is existing research which shatters this myth. A study of incarcerated and non-incarcerated male rape victims in Tennessee concluded that the similarities between these two groups would suggest that the sexual assault of men may not be due to conditions unique to a prison and that all men are potential victims (Lipscomb et al., 1992).
lol..Studies can be conducted to support anything.. Even if those studies are revered by quacks the world over, no offense but I think Ill pass and think for myself on this one...In all honesty, I find it impossible to respect the findings of those studies when they deduct something that seems so blatantly illogical to me and what appears to be the majority of voters in this poll.
Would you care to share your psychology/mental health training and credentials?
Sorry, I'll take theories from trained professionals in psychology that are based on actual case studies over what makes sense to you any day of the week.
lol..Studies can be conducted to support anything.. Even if those studies are revered by quacks the world over, no offense but I think Ill pass and think for myself on this one...In all honesty, I find it impossible to respect the findings of those studies when they deduct something that seems so blatantly illogical to me and what appears to be the majority of voters in this poll.
Only fools trust their gut reactions over real science.
it doesn't mean the guy is gay. The definition of homosexuality is being attracted to a member of the same sex. There are circumstances where a straight man has sexual contact with another man and it has nothing to do with being attracted to them. This is common in prison where men are locked up for life and the only way they can have sex is with another man. For some in prison its sexual relief (any hole will do) and for others its about power, control and reputation which is very important to some if they want to survive in prison. There are other circumstances as well. There are some straight men who receive oral sex from another man because of curiosity. The stereotype is that gay men perform those acts better than women. I don't want to get too graphic here but it has been said that many women don't like to perform to completion and thats kinda the whole point for most men unless oral sex is more of a foreplay kinda act.
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