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View Poll Results: If a man who identifies himself as "heterosexual" rapes another man is he really a homosex
yes 95 57.93%
no 69 42.07%
Voters: 164. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-25-2011, 01:41 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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What other explanation would there be?
Well, except that someone can rape someone without actually using their penis? I guess nothing.


Rape is a type of sexual assault usually(but not exclusively) involving sexual intercourse.
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Old 05-25-2011, 01:45 PM
 
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Well, except that someone can rape someone without actually using their penis? I guess nothing.
?

If a man is doing sexual things to another man, be it with his penis or doing some other "creative" act.......it is still a homosexual act.

Is this that complicated?

If you initiate homosexual acts..........you are homosexual.
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Old 05-25-2011, 01:45 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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A pillar of what it means to be truly homosexual is that you love individuals your own sex. But with such rapists that is not the case, they probably even hate others of their own sex.

I remember a documentary on homosexuality among animals. They observed young male apes (chimps or gorillas, don't remember) who displayed homosexual behavior as long as they were roaming the jungle in small all-male groups after leaving their families. But once they joined other groups and thus had access to females the homosexual behavior ended.
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Old 05-25-2011, 01:49 PM
 
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A pillar of what it means to be truly homosexual is that you love individuals your own sex. But with such rapists that is not the case, they probably even hate others of their own sex.
No, it means you are CAPABLE OF and WILLING TO commit homosexual acts. Love hasn't a damn thing to do with it.
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Old 05-25-2011, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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This covers the areas being discussed; any 2 year-old or 80 year-old that's been raped could tell you that sexual desire has little to do with it. There's a section on inmate rape, too.

81.03.06: Rape: Psychology, Prevention and Impact
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Old 05-25-2011, 01:49 PM
 
Location: London
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Being sentenced to prison is punishment. No American has ever been sentenced to be horribly brutalized in prison. I cannot begin to tell you how many nonviolent offenders, minors, or people who are held for trial - not even convicted, just held - are subjected to this.

Sometimes rapists, killers and molesters do get raped in prison, and as much as I'd like to applaud this, it is still wrong, barbaric and unconstitutional.

But when the innocent and/or weak get raped in prison simply because they can't keep it from happening, that is beyond a miscarriage of justice. It is simply unconscionable and should not be permitted in America.
Being sentenced to prison is punishment. They are not being sentenced to be raped in prison. The people who are locking criminals up haven't scheduled a raping to take place. That is the crime of the rapist and has nothing to do with the "cruel and unusual punishment" you mentioned. Is it wrong? Yes. Should the rapist be punished for it? Yes. Is the government instituting the rape? No.
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Old 05-25-2011, 01:52 PM
 
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For those voting 'not gay', if this same man forces himself on a child, I suppose that does not make him a pedophile?
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Old 05-25-2011, 01:54 PM
 
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Being sentenced to prison is punishment. They are not being sentenced to be raped in prison.
So if those placed into prison were waterboarded by other inmates with the complicity of guards, wardens, etc., it would be OK? They would be sent to prison with the idea that they would be in prison because of their crimes, but if they were waterboarded or otherwise tortured - neither of which are part of accepted practice in prisons - that wouldn't be cruel or unusual punishment?

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The people who are locking criminals up haven't scheduled a raping to take place. That is the crime of the rapist and has nothing to do with the "cruel and unusual punishment" you mentioned. Is it wrong? Yes. Should the rapist be punished for it?
The people who are locking up criminals are condoning and even enabling it. It's not the rapists who are creating the atmosphere in prisons - it is the corrections and "justice" systems.

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Yes. Is the government instituting the rape? No.
Not necessarily, but they are allowing it to happen. That is unconscionable.
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Old 05-25-2011, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Earth
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Being sentenced to prison is punishment. They are not being sentenced to be raped in prison. The people who are locking criminals up haven't scheduled a raping to take place. That is the crime of the rapist and has nothing to do with the "cruel and unusual punishment" you mentioned. Is it wrong? Yes. Should the rapist be punished for it? Yes. Is the government instituting the rape? No.
Government employees (guards) are aware that rape is going on and do nothing to prevent it, and at times encourage it and even take part in it.

So therefore they are complicit.

"Tough on crime" types view rape as just deserts for prisoners and often see the suffering of prisoners, including rape, as a form of entertainment.
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Old 05-25-2011, 01:57 PM
 
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this was posted on another thread

so here's the question if a man who identifies himself as "heterosexual" rapes another man is he really a homosexual?
Is this an intelligence test? If so, a lot of people are failing it.

By the very definition of terms the answer is yes.

It's like asking if a person that eats meat is a vegetarian.
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