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Old 05-26-2011, 10:27 AM
 
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Originally Posted by hawkeye2009 View Post
There seems to be a universal sentiment among liberals that no entitlements should be cut, despite our debt and deficit problems. In fact nearly every liberal is emphatic that medicare, social security, and medicaid should not be cut at all and simply blame George Bush for fiscal problems. Blame- but no answers.

Should we just keep all entitlements the way they are and let anarchy eventualy unfold? Keep in mind that we could balance the budget if we taxed the rich at 100% (slavery) and we cut the military 100%, which some liberals have actually suggested.


Any solutions, or just blame?
We could let those tax cuts expire. That'd solve half our problems.
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Old 05-26-2011, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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where the F else is the money?
it's that simple.

you aren't obliged to like it
but that doesn't change the fundamental truth of it
There is a chance that you need to look at the favorite place for money when these people need some. The PRINTING PRESSES of the Federal Board is a real favorite of the Obamaites.
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Old 05-26-2011, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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1. End the Bush Tax cuts
2. Remove the cap from the wage tax, which takes care of Social Security
3. a fifty cent per share tax on eac stock trade

Done, finished, surplus
How about putting in more printing presses at the Fed? Surely that would take care of some of our problem.
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Old 05-26-2011, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Of the federal budget. 5.8% of GDP.
Year: 2001
GDP: $12,950 Billion
Total Tax Receipts: $2,529 Billion
Total Spending: 2,366 Billion
Total Military Spending: $465 Billion

Military Spending is 19.6% of the total budget and 3.6% of the GDP

Year: 2011
GDP: $14,200 Billion
Total Tax Receipts: $2,173 Billion
Total Spending: $3,834 Billion
Total Military Spending: $929 Billion

Military Spending is 24.2% of the total budget and 6.5% of the GDP.

Comparing the numbers...
GDP has grown by 9.6% (+$1,250 Billion)
Tax receipts has reduced by about 15% (-$356 Billion)
Spending has increased by 62% (+$1,468 Billion)
Military Spending has increased by 100% (+464 Billion)

Nearly a third of total spending increase is due to spending on military.
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Old 05-26-2011, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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I dont care .Obama's going to win in 2012
That is a steaming pile of Pelosi type deflection. I guess you just ran out of things to say so you went to who wins in 2012.
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Old 05-26-2011, 10:41 AM
 
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We don't blame Bush, we blame the idiot that was in the office just before Obama. Get your facts straight.
Why does the man's name show up in so many liberal posts if you aren't blaming him?
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Old 05-26-2011, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Here an idea, why don't you let us know what you think is being cut from Medicare, and of course, why what is being cut, shouldn't be cut?
How many grandmas will be cast over the cliff because of those cuts? More than the one in the present ad shows.
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Old 05-26-2011, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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For those that think FDRs policies were a success...

1931-Federal debt $16.8 billion
1940-Federal debt $42.9 billion

253% change in less than a decade.

Is anyone mindless enough to believe that spending of that magnitude could be a good thing? If so, explain why the crash of 29 to the early 30s was only a modest recession in other industrial countries, and was over in a fairly short period of time. FDRs policies extended the pain for nearly a decade. Much like GWBs and BOs.
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Old 05-26-2011, 10:45 AM
 
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We could let those tax cuts expire. That'd solve half our problems.
Well hell then we could settle the whole thing by raising the taxes on those wealth people to 100%. I guess the libs who suggest that must all be right. Right?
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Old 05-26-2011, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Well hell then we could settle the whole thing by raising the taxes on those wealth people to 100%. I guess the libs who suggest that must all be right. Right?
There is no "sane" ground for you? It is either 0 or 100?
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