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Old 05-26-2011, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Pleasant Ridge, Cincinnati, OH
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Spitzer's claim to fame was the one year he spent as New York's Governor before resigning in disgrace. As with the vast majority of Democrats, it is painfully obviously that he is completely clueless with regard to the US Constitution.

Wikipedia lists his current profession as a "political entertainer," which is just another way of saying that he is a political clown. Nobody takes that idiot seriously.
But people do. He has a platform and needs to be challenged when he makes outrageous claims from it. There are plenty of people who agree with his viewpoint of the Constitution.
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Old 05-26-2011, 02:25 PM
 
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[quote=flash3780;19318636]Thanks for the correction;[//quote]

Here's another one. States do not now nor have they ever held more power nominally or otherwise than the Federal government.

As for the enumerated powers meme...

During the ratification of the Bill of Rights there was an attempt to insert the wording "expressly delegated" into the 10th Amendment. That proposal failed, because as Madison put it,

“[i]t was impossible, to confine a government to the exercise of express powers; there must necessarily be admitted powers by implication, unless the constitution descended to recount every minutiae.”
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Old 05-26-2011, 02:28 PM
 
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Hey, there was actual debate there. Something long lost...
Your right, and it was refreshing. Other than an occasional
rambling by Spitzer, he eventually let Paul in to answer
and you could see Eliot quite enjoyed the exchange. It
actually could have lasted longer, IMO.

Paul and Eliot should have discussed the constitutionality
of the illegality of prostitution as well

All and all, I thought it was a good exchange, and
respectful. Once again, Paul shines.
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Old 05-26-2011, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Pleasant Ridge, Cincinnati, OH
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Here's another one. States do not now nor have they ever held more power nominally or otherwise than the Federal government.

As for the enumerated powers meme...

During the ratification of the Bill of Rights there was an attempt to insert the wording "expressly delegated" into the 10th Amendment. That proposal failed, because as Madison put it,

“[i]t was impossible, to confine a government to the exercise of express powers; there must necessarily be admitted powers by implication, unless the constitution descended to recount every minutiae.”
There was a debate about inserting the word "expressly" into the 10th amendment. Nonetheless, that doesn't change the meaning of the words in the amendment.

As to the statement about the powers allocated to the states: They're responsible for all aspects of governance not given to the Federal government in the Constitution. That's a lot of power.

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Old 05-26-2011, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Pleasant Ridge, Cincinnati, OH
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Your right, and it was refreshing. Other than an occasional
rambling by Spitzer, he eventually let Paul in to answer
and you could see Eliot quite enjoyed the exchange. It
actually could have lasted longer, IMO.

Paul and Eliot should have discussed the constitutionality
of the illegality of prostitution as well

All and all, I thought it was a good exchange, and
respectful. Once again, Paul shines.
Ya know, I agree. It's not everyday that people are willing to discuss the limitations of government; where government gets its power; etc. I'd like to see more hosts pulling out a copy of the Constitution and challenging people's worldviews. I still think he's a tool, though - what's needed is a moderator to slap him down for interrupting.
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