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That is what the Reps ran on in 2010 and we can see that it was just a ruse.
BTW, I think the main focus should be jobs. We've got 9 mil. people unemployed and nobody in power seems to care.
i do think that the republicans forgot what the last election was all about, and they need a reminder from their constituents.
as far as the issues, ending mandatory healthcare would be easier to fix than the unemployment situation- although i agree that unemployment has to be fixed if there is to be a true economic recovery.
high unemployment means less income and greater outflow, in the form of social services- a double whammy for the economy. i also don't see how anyone can fix the unemployment situation if they refuse to acknowledge the oversupply of labor issue and deal with that.
i do think that the republicans forgot what the last election was all about, and they need a reminder from their constituents.
as far as the issues, ending mandatory healthcare would be easier to fix than the unemployment situation- although i agree that unemployment has to be fixed if there is to be a true economic recovery.
high unemployment means less income and greater outflow, in the form of social services- a double whammy for the economy. i also don't see how anyone can fix the unemployment situation if they refuse to acknowledge the oversupply of labor issue and deal with that.
First, repealing the Affordability Act is neither easy nor warranted. It's not easy because in-spite of Boehner's demagoguery about repealing it, he know that he wasn't going to win enough seats to override a veto.
It's not warranted because the law does far more good than hard. The only thing that would have made it much better is if included a public option, which is very popular.
Second, there is no oversupply of labor, there is an under-supply of demand. That was being addressed by the stimulus in fiscal policy and lowing interest rates in monetary policy. The problem, like many economists warned, was too small to overcome the cuts in spending at the state level.
First, repealing the Affordability Act is neither easy nor warranted. It's not easy because in-spite of Boehner's demagoguery about repealing it, he know that he wasn't going to win enough seats to override a veto.
It's not warranted because the law does far more good than hard. The only thing that would have made it much better is if included a public option, which is very popular.
Second, there is no oversupply of labor, there is an under-supply of demand. That was being addressed by the stimulus in fiscal policy and lowing interest rates in monetary policy. The problem, like many economists warned, was too small to overcome the cuts in spending at the state level.
i disagree.
our economy did NOT have enough of a manufacturing base to absorb millions of illegal immigrants.
the stimulus fixed NOTHING. (as i posted in the business forum). we lost 1 million private sector jobs since the stimulus. the only jobs gained were in the public sector and, again, they have to be funded down the road by the private sector. that is called trying to kick the can until you leave office.
in the meantime, our debt load increased and our trade deficit increased.
the cuts in spending have to occur when the money isn't there. keep in mind that "printing money" (the new democratic solution) pushes funny money into the system, which will flow into commodities, raising the price of the basics that people need to survive-i.e., food and gas.
just look at what is coming down the pike with the post office:
Here, a by-the-numbers guide to the "dire financial straits" the U.S.P.S. faces, and the federal bailout it needs:
$7 billion
Amount the U.S. Postal Service is expected to lose this fiscal year, according to Postmaster General Patrick Donahoe, as cited by The Washington Post
$20 billion
Total losses by the Postal Service since 2007,
they can't make their pension payment this year of $5.5 billion.
nobody is dealing with the reality of our economy at all, and pretending there isn't a problem doesn't make the problem go away.
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our economy did NOT have enough of a manufacturing base to absorb millions of illegal immigrants.
the stimulus fixed NOTHING. (as i posted in the business forum). we lost 1 million private sector jobs since the stimulus. the only jobs gained were in the public sector and, again, they have to be funded down the road by the private sector. that is called trying to kick the can until you leave office.
in the meantime, our debt load increased and our trade deficit increased.
the cuts in spending have to occur when the money isn't there. keep in mind that "printing money" (the new democratic solution) pushes funny money into the system, which will flow into commodities, raising the price of the basics that people need to survive-i.e., food and gas.
just look at what is coming down the pike with the post office:
Here, a by-the-numbers guide to the "dire financial straits" the U.S.P.S. faces, and the federal bailout it needs:
$7 billion
Amount the U.S. Postal Service is expected to lose this fiscal year, according to Postmaster General Patrick Donahoe, as cited by The Washington Post
$20 billion
Total losses by the Postal Service since 2007,
they can't make their pension payment this year of $5.5 billion.
nobody is dealing with the reality of our economy at all, and pretending there isn't a problem doesn't make the problem go away.
Your post is all over the place, so I'll only address a few points.
Illegal immigrants did not cause the recession nor is a significant contributor. The jobs they take are among the lowest paid and least desirable.
You claim that the stimulus did nothing but cite no data. One cannot have a feeling that it did nothing that can be accepted as credible. The fact is that the modest federal stimulus, which was about $526 billion, not including Obama's tax-cuts, or 3-3/4 of GDP, was small -- and too small to offset the massive cuts in state and local spending. Nevertheless, it was a mitigating factor resulting in a positive effect on GDP and jobs. That's the view of the CBO report on Wednesday, May 24, 2011:
Quote:
The CBO report out Wednesday said the plan increased the number of people employed by between 1.2 million and 3.3 million, and lowered the unemployment rate by between 0.6 and 1.8 percentage points in the first quarter of 2011.
The stimulus package also raised gross domestic product, the broadest measure of economic output, by between 1.1% and 3.1% in the same period. WSJ
As you are likely not to be aware, cutting government spending in a recession is among the worst policies to administer. That policy causes additional job losses, as demand is eroded.
Likewise, your strong dollar policy means that American goods are more expensive. The low dollar policy by the Fed is responsible for the manufacturing trade deficit coming down. U.S. firms like Caterpillar that once shifted production abroad but are now moving it back. At the same time, companies from other countries, especially European firms, are moving production to America.
I don’t want to suggest that everything is wonderful about U.S. manufacturing. So far, the job gains are modest. But what’s driving the turnaround in our manufacturing trade? The main answer is that the U.S. dollar has fallen against other currencies, helping give U.S.-based manufacturing a cost advantage. A weaker dollar, it turns out, was just what U.S. industry needed.
and if dummy bush was in office you leftwingnutjobs would be saying how bush needs a machine to sign a bill he is to incompetent to sign
here is a question
since the POTUS's only real power is signing the bills into law that congeress passes...and now a machine can do it..then why do we even need a POTUS????
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