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Old 05-28-2011, 06:19 PM
 
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The only bad music the blacks innovated is rap.

Hip hop, soul (gospel), blues, rock, tribal, dance, funk, disco, etc are all fine.
Agreed. Motown soul music is some of the best music ever created. The 60's and 70's were an awesome era for music (Motown, Classic Rock, Progressive Rock, Country, etc.).
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Old 05-28-2011, 06:28 PM
 
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I love the Motown era.

I loved hip-hop when Janet Jackson was the Queen of it.

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Agreed. Motown soul music is some of the best music ever created. The 60's and 70's were an awesome era for music (Motown, Classic Rock, Progressive Rock, Country, etc.).
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Old 05-28-2011, 06:28 PM
 
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I wasn't refuting that point.

The one genre that has absolutely no African influence (and is probably the most technically proficient genre) is classical music. Most Americans are too uncultured to realize Bach, Beethoven, and Tchaikovsky ever existed though.
You're actually wrong about classical music having absolutely no African influence ; after WW1, classical composers started becoming influenced by jazz, Latin, and Brazilian sounds. Stravinsky, Ravel, Milhaud, Copland, Gershwin, Villa-Lobos, Hindemith, Roldan, etc. come to mind, as well as William Grant Still, most known for the "Afro-American Symphony".

Pre-WW1, you'd be correct.
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Old 05-28-2011, 06:30 PM
 
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Did Blacks Create The American Sound?

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If you look at ever musical genre in American music, you will hear influences from black people. All American music including Country have African roots.
Uhhh, that would have been Hollywood... and Elvis.
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Old 05-28-2011, 06:35 PM
 
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You're actually wrong about classical music having absolutely no African influence ; after WW1, classical composers started becoming influenced by jazz, Latin, and Brazilian sounds. Stravinsky, Ravel, Milhaud, Copland, Gershwin, Villa-Lobos, Hindemith, Roldan, etc. come to mind, as well as William Grant Still, most known for the "Afro-American Symphony".

Pre-WW1, you'd be correct.

YouTube - ‪Chuck Berry , Keith Richards_Roll over Beethoven +Almost Grown!!‬‏
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Old 05-28-2011, 06:44 PM
 
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I think that is another viable theory. Non-African's possess between 1-4% Neanderthal DNA. These are just theories though. Nobody can say with 100% certainty that homo sapiens came from Africa or not.
The pretty much refutes the majority of academic research on the subject to date.

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Anatomically modern humans first appear in the fossil record in Africa about 195,000 years ago, and studies of molecular biology give evidence that the approximate time of divergence from the common ancestor of all modern human populations was 200,000 years ago.[18][19][20][21][22] The broad study of African genetic diversity headed by Dr. Sarah Tishkoff found the San people to express the greatest genetic diversity among the 113 distinct populations sampled, making them one of 14 "ancestral population clusters". The research also located the origin of modern human migration in south-western Africa, near the coastal border of Namibia and Angola.[23]
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The out of Africa migration is estimated to have occurred about 70,000 years BP. Modern humans subsequently spread to all continents, replacing earlier hominids: they inhabited Eurasia and Oceania by 40,000 years BP, and the Americas at least 14,500 years BP.[35] A popular theory is that they displaced Homo neanderthalensis and other species descended from Homo erectus[36] (which had inhabited Eurasia as early as 2 million years ago) through more successful reproduction and competition for resources.[37] The exact manner or extent of the coexistence and interaction of these species is unknown and continues to be a controversial subject.[citation needed]

Evidence from archaeogenetics accumulating since the 1990s has lent strong support to the "out-of-Africa" scenario, and has marginalized the competing multiregional hypothesis, which proposed that modern humans evolved, at least in part, from independent hominid populations.[38]

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Nearly 40 years after an historic anthropology expedition to Ethiopia's Lake Turkana basin, researchers have uncovered evidence suggesting human bones found at that time are roughly 195,000 years old. The researchers believe the findings may bolster the “Out-of-Africa” hypothesis that suggests we all trace to an ancient line that first evolved in Africa and then displaced other hominids as recently as 50,000 years ago.

Ian McDougall of Australian National University (ANU), Frank Brown of the University of Utah and John Fleagle of Stony Brook University, report their findings in the Feb. 17 issue of the journal Nature.

The fossils, from near the town of Kibish, are far more ancient than researchers originally suspected and nearly 40,000 years older than skulls from Herto, Ethiopia, the previous record holders.
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Old 05-28-2011, 06:54 PM
 
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If you look at ever musical genre in American music, you will hear influences from black people. All American music including Country have African roots.
No, it originated with the Big Bang. Possibly even before.
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Old 05-28-2011, 06:54 PM
 
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Heavy metal and hard rock came out of the blues-based and R'n'b based rock of the late 60s. All it took was a distortion pedal and crapload of drugs to turn Howlin' Wolf and John Lee Hooker into Black Sabbath and Led Zeppelin. And Jimi Hendrix came out of the r'n'b circuit(he played with the Isley Brothers)but ended up pioneering and providing a lot of the framework for distorted guitar playing that would transform rock. Even Black Sabbath, which created the early template for darker heavy metal, still had bluesy solos and even a harmonica on it's debut record. By the early 80s, much of the blues influences had been stripped out by bands like Judas Priest and Iron Maiden in favor of a heavier dissonance. By the time you get to thrash metal like Metallica and Slayer, it's something else completely different--to speak nothing of the more extreme forms. And there's other musicians in metal more influenced by classical music even in the scales used for solos, than anything in the blues.

Same thing with punk rock though--the Ramones stripped out blues solos in favor of non-stop power chords, but the Sex Pistols and Clash were still aping Chuck Berry style riffs and solos in the late 70s. But by the time you get to early hardcore punk, it mutated into a more straight ahead heavy rock sound. Since the 70s though rock music has had different degrees of flirtation with the black styles of the times.
that's basically what I said
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Old 05-28-2011, 06:55 PM
 
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No, it originated with the Big Bang. Possibly even before.
The Milky Way is little more than disco fever.
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Old 05-28-2011, 07:16 PM
 
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The pretty much refutes the majority of academic research on the subject to date.

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So you can say with complete certainty that homo sapiens sapiens originated in Africa? Yes or no.
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