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Why is that that liberals, always love the trioops, but NEVER seem to support the mission?
Why is it wrong to not support a mission if it is the wrong thing to do? And why is this immediately deemed a lack of support for the troops or not liking our military. If your children were to make some wrong or dangerous decisions, and you were to call them on these decisions, does tha mean you do not support them, or do not like them? World War 2 was a case of going to war for the right reasons, going into Iraq is an example of going to war for the wrong reasons. Mindlessly supporting anything the military does leads to fascism or worse. It is truly American to keep an eye on the military leaders, just look all through the history of this country and you will see that is true. To question missions does not equal lack of support for the military. I don't understand why real far right wingers act like the military can't do anything wrong, and if anyone questions their actions or motives, they are traitors to our country. I think it is because a lot of far right wingers see the world in only black or white, and the world is really made up of many shades of grey, which is something their minds can't comprehend or their eyes cannot see.
They don't. They are opposed to those who are trying to dramatically transform America's traditional freedoms into something resembling Socialism/Communism.
3. Fostering a "no compromise" mindset is the opposite of political activity. It results in deadlock. Politics is the art of compromise.
Politics is the "art of compromise?" Say's who? Not the dictionary, that's for sure. Meaning, it's not even eluded to indirectly, so far as I am aware. Politics is about governance. Governance does not require that we throw a bone to everyone so they feel like they are getting something out of the deal, or so they don't feel shut out of the process.
Compromising is for people who find value in compromising when they feel it is appropriate to compromise. Nothing more, nothing less. Politics doesn't necessitate compromise, and in some cases compromise is outright pernicious and dangerous. It simply proves helpful sometimes when non contentious issues arise.
Would you compromise with somebody on the issue of how many people from a particular minority group should go to the death camps to grease the wheels of the pogrom against that minority group? Somehow doubt you would, nor should you. Which then puts you in the dreaded (quoting you) "no compromise camp" that you lambasted.
Some things you compromise on. Some things you don't.
Let's dispense with the pretense that this is really about never compromising. We'll just read between the lines and state the obvious objection... what people really mean when they harp about compromises, or lack thereof: it simply is code-phrase employed when some people just don't like it when the other side won't submit, in a particular instance, or even several instances. It has little to do with "never" compromising. It's all about people just being pissed that their preferred legislation isn't going along as smoothly as they would have liked. Oh well, welcome to politics. Just because politicians "can" do something, doesn't mean they should. Just because one group of politicians gets a bright idea and say's, "Hey, let's see what group of citizens we can screw over today," does not mean all the other politicians should then follow right along and hash out a compromised master plan for who they are going to screw over, and how it is to be done. In some cases (many cases even, some would say), that may damn well mean no compromise will be had on this particular issue, because what the other group wants just might be damn well repugnant.
"Let's see, as we screw them over, we should make them bend over 'this' far," says the Republicrat.
"No, no, no... I disagree.... when we screw them over, I think they should bend over 'that' far," says the Demopublican.
"Okay, tell you what... let's just split the difference down the middle and screw them by that much."
Congratulations, truly a good day for justice and politics... we've compromised on screwing people over. Let's go have a beer. Awesome job.... because clearly compromise is a moral good in itself which can somehow be decoupled from the object that is being compromised on.
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No doubt. Most republican supporters are delusional and play into their master's lies. The politicians claiming "jobs are #1!" yet no jobs are created. "less government!" yet overwhelmingly supported the patriot act. "less spending!" yet refused to cut 21 billion in proposed government welfare to big oil.
They live in a fantasy land where they think the right actually cares about the country and the common man. Everyone else knows this is further from the truth and they are full of it, but the world has plenty of stupid people who don't.
I'm not sure I understood where you were coming from in your comment. Were there supposed to be overtones of sarcasm or satire to go along with the actual words. I think you lost me. I don't know which side you're being critical of. Elaborate please.
I like some of his movies. I find his infidelity appalling. I can make ignorant, broad spectrum statements too. Because they are Pro-choice, liberals love killing innocent babies. I know that is completely false, but I'll say it because I have the right to.
No, but his toadies and surrogates accused everyone who disagrees with him of being racist. They're still at it, apparently.
Golly, I wish I was a black woman. That way I could say anything I like and take offense to anything I like and no one could say a damn thing about it because I'd have a whole deck of race cards in my purse.
How about a little education on those 2 phrases.
Mission Accomplished was for that carrier that finished it's mission and was going home. With us or against us was meant for foreign countries, not Americans.
Ignorance is bliss isn't it? Arguing with liberals is like having a fight with a 5 year old.
They don't. They are opposed to those who are trying to dramatically transform America's traditional freedoms into something resembling Socialism/Communism.
No doubt that flew right over the OP's head but well stated just the same.
Limbaugh et al don't hate Americans. They hate libs, progressives and others of that ilk, none of which are American.
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They don't. They are opposed to those who are trying to dramatically transform America's traditional freedoms into something resembling Socialism/Communism.
That's the change Obama promised. Mark Levin used the word, transform, transforming America, in his dialogue about Obama. I thought to myself, I got that when Obama was running for president, through his speeches. I think people mistook his message in that he would change the government's approach to transparency and change the government. He didn't mean that all. What he meant through out all that change message was, he would take down America's pride and he has been systematically doing that since he took office.
All these talk show hosts are doing is, ranting about it, but hey, that's like trying to close the barn doors after the cows get out. When it should have been realized and talked about is during Obama's campaign and in understanding just exactly what the man was saying when he was saying it. Where and what were the topics of these ranting talk show hosts then?
People are just not listening when they should be and it is nobody's fault when it all goes up in smoke, but their own. If we are relying on talk show hosts to explain it to us, we're in sad shape as a nation.
Obamahood, (2007) like robinhood...oh...Ohhhh, now (2011) we get it.
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