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Old 06-02-2011, 08:20 PM
 
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Yeah, if only we lived in a static economy, then the link you keep providing, would hold some value.. As it is, we're a dynamic society, and I laugh at your link everytime you post it.
You can't B.S your way out of it.

You'll post some stupid graph than no right wing lemming can put in perspective, has no background to comprehend, and only tells half the story.

You don't fool anybody.

The NYT budget balancer gives a fair accounting of the budget deficit and what it would take to correct that.

You don't like it because it blows your right wing propaganda out of the water.....LOL
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Old 06-02-2011, 08:23 PM
 
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Obama's health care plan is law....It's a done deal.

There are no more entitlement plans in the works.

Anybody that says this is lying.

And BTW the additional money required to fund "Obamacare" amounts to less than 2% of the Federal budget.

Yet 2/3 of the 15% of Americans who didn't have insurance will now have it.
It still adds 2% of the budget to the deficit, and possibly more to the deficit in the future. The CBO has been all over the place in its calculations on what it will cost over the next decade. Much of the savings is based on cuts to Medicare over the next decade. Will the politicians really have the guts to make the hard cuts needed to prevent the cost from skyrocketing? I'm not confident that they will put their political lives at stake, are you?
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Old 06-02-2011, 08:24 PM
 
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the spending problem we have is all the social entitlement programs,
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Old 06-02-2011, 08:25 PM
 
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Um.. people are now asking for universal healthcare..

Lie.. obamcare is a TAX plan, not an insurance plan..
ummmm....you might want to go back and READ the thread.

The question is ...are there any proposals in the works for more entitlements.

The answer is no......not that there are not Americans that want more entitlements.

I don't care what you call Obama care....2/3 of the 15% of Americans that didn't have insurance will now have ti.
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Old 06-02-2011, 08:25 PM
 
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Ovcatto, why do you keep posting graphs known to be a lie?
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Old 06-02-2011, 08:27 PM
 
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It still adds 2% of the budget to the deficit, and possibly more to the deficit in the future. The CBO has been all over the place in its calculations on what it will cost over the next decade. Much of the savings is based on cuts to Medicare over the next decade. Will the politicians really have the guts to make the hard cuts needed to prevent the cost from skyrocketing? I'm not confident that they will put their political lives at stake, are you?
No the CBO has not been ALL over the place....they made some corrections as you would hope they would....the cost has not gone up or down by more than 10%.

If you don't like it....go and take the entitlement back.

I personally would love for the GOP to run on a platform of cutting entitlements.

I'm able to balance the budget primarily by a modest raise in taxes on the wealthy and modest cuts in the military. No cuts to social security or medicare.

You can do this yourself here.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...s-graphic.html
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Old 06-02-2011, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Tax bills in 2009 at lowest level since 1950

The "spending problem" we have in this country comes from two wars, the Bush tax cuts, and spending by the federal government specifically designed to help the economy (stimulus, auto bailouts, etc.). The other half of the equation is the sharp drop in federal revenue.

Stop the wars and the Bush tax cuts.

The spending problem has nothing to do with tax cuts. It has everything to do with SPENDING!

Spending by our wasteful bloated government should be cut by 50%
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Old 06-02-2011, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The last Appropriations Bill which included "tough cuts" hammered out by Obama, Reid and Boehner also included $8 billion in funding pet projects.

PP and medicare got cut but peanut studies and grape studies and foreign animal disease studies got additional funding.
That's right $8 billion in spending got included in that bill to buy votes.

And that's without any NEW revenue and cuts. Imagine what Congress will do if they get a new source of revenue ? How many times over will they spend that money before the ink is even dry from Obama's signature ? How many NEW pet projects will arise from the ashes looking for fresh money ?
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Old 06-02-2011, 08:31 PM
 
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Obama's health care plan is law....It's a done deal.
really? you might want to tell that to the federal judges in virginia and florida who disagree with you.

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You can't B.S your way out of it.

You'll post some stupid graph than no right wing lemming can put in perspective, has no background to comprehend, and only tells half the story.

You don't fool anybody.

The NYT budget balancer gives a fair accounting of the budget deficit and what it would take to correct that.

You don't like it because it blows your right wing propaganda out of the water.....LOL
you keep posting that link, and how you managed to balance the budget, but you constantly forget that STATIC ECONOMIC MODELS DONT WORK with a dynamic economy.
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Old 06-02-2011, 08:32 PM
 
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You can't B.S your way out of it.

You'll post some stupid graph than no right wing lemming can put in perspective, has no background to comprehend, and only tells half the story.

You don't fool anybody.

The NYT budget balancer gives a fair accounting of the budget deficit and what it would take to correct that.

You don't like it because it blows your right wing propaganda out of the water.....LOL
The fact that you keep posting the NYT link, is histerical.. Yep, I'm laughing at you again for thinking we're a static economy..
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ummmm....you might want to go back and READ the thread.

The question is ...are there any proposals in the works for more entitlements.

The answer is no......not that there are not Americans that want more entitlements.
So you are telling me no one is proposing universal healthcare? You dont think the "subsidies" are entitlements? There isnt proposals to expand medicare to all? You dont think FEMA spending, in disaster areas are viewed as entitlemeents?
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I don't care what you call Obama care....2/3 of the 15% of Americans that didn't have insurance will now have ti.
That figure is about as worthy as the other crap that comes outta ones butt.. Isnt it great to just make up stuff?
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