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Old 06-03-2011, 10:08 PM
 
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The people hired to 'fight' global warming and man made climate change is the same firm that tobacco companies hired to convince everyone based on their 'science' that there is no serious health risk to smoking. How long was that bunk science sold and bought?
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Old 06-03-2011, 10:27 PM
 
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I don't think it's anything I have to "believe" in or not, I still favor not dicking around with the only planet we currently have to live on.
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Old 06-03-2011, 10:29 PM
 
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The people hired to 'fight' global warming and man made climate change is the same firm that tobacco companies hired to convince everyone based on their 'science' that there is no serious health risk to smoking. How long was that bunk science sold and bought?
I think that one simply needs to evaluate the valid scientific data. Leftists have convinced themselves that rational "science" supports the contention of man-made global warming as a result of CO2 increases in the atmosphere. This is completely rubbish and is the antithesis of science. However, the faithful throngs, who are unable to evaluate what constitutes a "good" vs "poor" study, are CONVINCED that global warming is real entity and that man is the culprit.

This contention is complete nonsense and is a complete fraud. Anyone with any scientific background understands this, yet the laymen lap up the "science" as though it is the gospel truth and have the misquided audacity to attack anyone who questions the "religion" of global warming.

Newsflash- real science WELCOMES debate and careful evaluation of the data. Real science is not interested in the "outcome" of a study, but is more concerned with the facts. Global warming is not "science", it is a cult and is the polar opppsite of good science.
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Old 06-03-2011, 10:32 PM
 
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It's still called global warming. Climate change is what is known as a "synonym." It may now be favored because it helps fend off idiots who think that cold local weather somehow disproves warm global climate.
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Old 06-04-2011, 12:05 AM
 
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adhering to the theory of "climate change" is not synonymous with liberals, it is however with scientists.

I suspect the term was changed to "climate change" as a result of political pressure. I believe energy companies found "global warming" to be politically incorrect.


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Two questions were key: Have mean global temperatures risen compared to pre-1800s levels, and has human activity been a significant factor in changing mean global temperatures?

About 90 percent of the scientists agreed with the first question and 82 percent the second.The strongest consensus on the causes of global warming came from climatologists who are active in climate research, with 97 percent agreeing humans play a role.
http://articles.cnn.com/2009-01-19/w...ty?_s=PM:WORLD
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Old 06-04-2011, 12:08 AM
 
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No one ever said that liberals have a corner on smarts.
If one did say that I would point and laugh at them.
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Old 06-04-2011, 12:17 AM
 
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We all know that we're polluting the air, land, and water and that pollution is unhealthy for all life forms.
CO2 is a greenhouse gas, it is not pollutant and a necessary gas for life on this planet.


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Whether or not it is affecting the global temperatures is questionable and irrelevant. Why can't the enviro-nazis just stick with campaigning on the fact that our rivers, lakes, oceans, skies, etc are becoming polluted and that pollution is bad? Why do they have to go for the holy grail of trying to prove global warming exists due to human activity?
Because it's not increasing, at least here in the US. The six most common air pollutants have been cut by almost 60% since the 80's. You won't hear that from any environmentalists, half of them probably too ignorant to know it...

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Old 06-04-2011, 12:25 AM
 
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adhering to the theory of "climate change" is not synonymous with liberals, it is however with scientists.

I suspect the term was changed to "climate change" as a result of political pressure. I believe energy companies found "global warming" to be politically incorrect.




Surveyed scientists agree global warming is real - CNN

This survey has been brought up before and there was many problems with it that I'm not going to go over again. Do a search.


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Never mind, I will go over some of the major issues.

This survey was sent to about 10,000 scientists, about 3,000 responded.

1. The questionnaire was sent via email, this brings up the first issue because there is no absolute way of determining exactly who was answering it. For example many might have secretaries screening their email. Is the secretary an environmentalist activists fraudulently answering it?

2. Secondly since this was voluntary who is more likely to respond? If we send a poll out on abortion do you think you might get an overwhelming response from Catholics?

3. They were blocking IP's as "security measure" to prevent fraud, you can't do this and would actually work the opposite way. Entire campuses could have the same IP, so you could be blocking some very legitimate people from voting. This would also be open for manipulation if someone realized they could prevent a colleague with an opposing view from voting by voting first.

4. Last but not least the important question was "Has human activity been a significant factor in changing mean global temperatures?" What is the quantification of significant? This could mean 100 different things to 100 different people. $20 is a significant amount of money to a homeless person but it isn't to someone that is rich.

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Old 06-04-2011, 01:05 AM
 
Location: Northern CA
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I see it as a redistribution of wealth and social engineering. There is a lot of money to be made, and power to be acquired, by the global elite.

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Over 650 Scientists Challenge Global Warming "Consensus"
Twelve times more than those that put their names to the IPCC report

As we have previously reported, less than half of all published scientists endorse what has been dubbed the "consensus view".
However, President-elect Barack Obama yesterday vowed to end global warming "denial".
Over 650 Scientists Challenge Global Warming "Consensus"
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Old 06-04-2011, 01:24 AM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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It just doesn't add up to me. First, they claimed that temperatures were rising due to global warming. After there were decreses in temperarures, they changed it to "climate change". The Climate Gate scandal even brings more questions.


I'm not a conspiracy buff, but I think the whole climate change nonsense is pseudo science of our day.
BLASPHEMY!!

Seriously, congratulations. You've taken your first step into a larger world -- a world where you form your own opinions about things and don't rely on the Democrats or the Republicans to tell you what to think.
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