Police state vs. anarchy-which is more evi? (Brown, how much, crime)
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Did you know that the US, China and Russia can have their nuclear battle and the fallout won't move past the equater? The southern hemisphere has 25% of the world population yet only 5% of the pollution.
I've looked into Chile and New Zealand. Firearms are a deciding factor for me as well. NZ seems to be gun friendly unlike the AU. My rifles would get in for sure, my handguns... maybe. Chile is a gun friendly nation as well, but Spanish isn't my strong suit. IF push came to shove that would be my #2 choice.
I had heard that, but I don't know if it is really true, about fall out. I belive NZ is somewhat more friendly guns wise but isn't the best.... I think a lot of guns are restrickted there. At least a Kiwi friend of mine said so visiting here and wanting to shoot several guns of mine.
I think if it comes to a all out nuke war I will die right here where I am. I don't think I need the challange of more trouble on Earth. I have had about all of that I want. If the chicken Givt tells me to duck I would probably go to th highest point of land around and watch it all come down. That might sound nuts but I do pretty strange things eveyday.
To survive such a thing would be over my top watching others suffer even if I didn't, and I am sure i would. But the others suffering is over my top.
AND in the event of such a war I really doubt other countries would just pop open their doors and toss out a welcome mat. Whats left of the world would not support so many people as are in it. For those in lesser effected areas many others would need to die for them to live. My whole being is to Live Free and never become a Burden to anyone.
A lot of people say they need the Police, but I think very, very few actually mean it.
I have a cousin who is a member of LA Sheriffs SWAT and he says the same thing. I have always appreciated cops and their seemingly thankless job.
With that said: My wife and I were driving downtown as we did every week for our business. We were pulled over under a shady probable cause excuse. He said he saw my wife stuff something into the air vent (as we passed him), yea right!
"Honey, hide the drugs in the air vent while I pass the cop"
Last time I checked it wasn't illegal to stuff anything into your air vent and obviously she wasn't and didn't. After running licenses (on both of us) and rather than saying "my mistake"... he started harrassing me, forcing me to back out of my car as he held my hands behind my back for NO REASON. Do you know how hard it is for a fifty year old guy with a bad back to back out of a car with hands being held behind his back? We were just an easy target to blow two hours as they searched our car from bottom to top. I asked if I was being arrested (if sure felt like it) and he snapped back "should we arrest you?"... I thought what an a$shole
IF I hadn't been so rattled I would have called 911 and demanded a field supervisor be called. The scary issue is that we had pulled over in a secluded parking lot (4 blocks from our home) and one of the cops was definately agitated that he couldn't find anything in our car.
I appreciate cops until they act like the gestapo. I wonder if this would have happened if we weren't a caucasian middle aged couple. Things are getting screwy in Los Angeles.
I have a cousin who is a member of LA Sheriffs SWAT and he says the same thing. I have always appreciated cops and their seemingly thankless job.
With that said: My wife and I were driving downtown as we did every week for our business. We were pulled over under a shady probably cause excuse. I was harrassed and backed out of my car, hands behind my back for NO REASON. We are fifty somethings who became an easy target to blow two hours as they searched our car from bottom to top. IF I hadn't been so rattled I would have called 911 and demanded a field supervisor be called. The scary issue is that we had pulled over in a secluded parking lot (4 blocks from our home) and one of the cops was definately agitated that he couldn't find anything in our car.
I appreciate cops until they act like the gestapo. I wonder if this would have happened if we weren't a caucasian middle aged couple. Things are getting screwy in Los Angeles.
I suffered something like that once. I was coming home from a primitive event in Pa, and in Mass getting water for my horse in the trailer behind the truck naturally. And getting a bite for me too, still wearing buck skins.
All I did was order at a traffic circle mom and pop placeand ask for water enough for the horse. I stayed in my truck to eat and didn't see or talk with anyone but the staff.
The instant I drove off the parking lot I was pulled over before I could even get the trailer straight and I stopped just like that till order to pull over more.I wasn't moving faster than 5 MPH, so I didn't know how to answer if i knew why I was getting stopped.
That didn't go well.
Then the cop had me get out after I handed over my dl, and regii. and he tore right into my personal stuff. There was my cased bowie and a flintlock pistol he tried to open at the breech and there simply is no way to open that type of black powder muzzel loader in the first place.
As he twisted and pried on the pistol he totally lost his awarenss of me and if I had wanted to I could have disarmed him and shot him on the spot with his own side arm a Glock.
Even in Mass a black powder gun isn't listed as a weapon. My musket was in a blanket case hung in window racks and he didn't care a bit about that or the big knife, he was just going to 'find' something if that meant he would put it there, which was my real worry.
I asked over and over what it was he wanted, and he wouldn't say. He refused any info on anything I might have done.
After 45 minutes I took his badge number down and told him to arrest me, and to get my horse to the SPCA, and I would sue his pants off in a court of law.
Other than him placing anything NOT MINE I wasn't worried a bit about what he could find. Albeit I had a lot of pretty strange stuff, but nothing illegal. All my stuff was related to the 1805/1839 American Mountain Man Fur brigades. Hell, I didn't even have any endangered species stuff, like NYC alligator teeth
The Founding Fathers were afraid of both. The US is not a true Democracy, meaning that the public votes on everything, but a Republic, a representative government. They saw the danger of mob rule, which could be just as dangerous as despotism.
I have a cousin who is a member of LA Sheriffs SWAT and he says the same thing. I have always appreciated cops and their seemingly thankless job.
With that said: My wife and I were driving downtown as we did every week for our business. We were pulled over under a shady probable cause excuse. He said he saw my wife stuff something into the air vent (as we passed him), yea right!
"Honey, hide the drugs in the air vent while I pass the cop"
Last time I checked it wasn't illegal to stuff anything into your air vent and obviously she wasn't and didn't. After running licenses (on both of us) and rather than saying "my mistake"... he started harrassing me, forcing me to back out of my car as he held my hands behind my back for NO REASON. Do you know how hard it is for a fifty year old guy with a bad back to back out of a car with hands being held behind his back? We were just an easy target to blow two hours as they searched our car from bottom to top. I asked if I was being arrested (if sure felt like it) and he snapped back "should we arrest you?"... I thought what an a$shole
IF I hadn't been so rattled I would have called 911 and demanded a field supervisor be called. The scary issue is that we had pulled over in a secluded parking lot (4 blocks from our home) and one of the cops was definately agitated that he couldn't find anything in our car.
I appreciate cops until they act like the gestapo. I wonder if this would have happened if we weren't a caucasian middle aged couple. Things are getting screwy in Los Angeles.
Really, I heard the LAPD treats everyone like a King.
The Founding Fathers were afraid of both. The US is not a true Democracy, meaning that the public votes on everything, but a Republic, a representative government. They saw the danger of mob rule, which could be just as dangerous as despotism.
There is nothing, nothing, more abusive than a police state.
There is nothing more abhorrent than those that abuse their power.
Did you know that the US, China and Russia can have their nuclear battle and the fallout won't move past the equater? The southern hemisphere has 25% of the world population yet only 5% of the pollution.
I've looked into Chile and New Zealand. Firearms are a deciding factor for me as well. NZ seems to be gun friendly unlike the AU. My rifles would get in for sure, my handguns... maybe. Chile is a gun friendly nation as well, but Spanish isn't my strong suit. IF push came to shove that would be my #2 choice.
RE: New Zealand being "gun friendly."
I used to be a longtime viewer of a YouTube channel of some guy from New Zealand. Most of his videos were about guns, and gun rights in NZ. My impression was that country is absolutely brutal when it comes to gun laws. Australia brutal? No. But "gun friendly" and "NZ" are two things that don't even belong anywhere near each other, at least from what I remember of this guys YouTube channel.
I've always had a fascination with New Zealand. I like the countries terrain and nature, being a hiking enthusiast... it almost seems like paradise. But their gun laws.... total ****. So much so that I've totally 'written off' the idea of ever visiting the country. I won't ever visit such a repressive country, no matter how enamored I may be with its landscape (and to some extent, its people seem nice, too).
Again, just my impression from watching the aforementioned guys videos for a long time. He seemed to know the gun laws fairly well... or well enough to give me a general sense of how hostile it is. The problem isn't so much that you can't have the guns..... it's just that they slap so many absurd restrictions on their use, and ownership itself (and the hoops you have to jump through) that it is what we in America would call in Constitutional law lingo, a "de facto ban." Meaning, they let you have them.... but using them is so heavily restricted, that its still a "ban" for all intents and purposes, because all of the guns that you can own end up being metal ornaments laying around your house. They reduce largely to "show" items.
There is a lot of interest in the link "guns-breakdown of society" here.
But if society broke down to anarchy, I'd expect the period when guns were most required would be brief, and lasting only untill thngs settled down a bit. And even during the worst of it, cholera and food poisoning would kill way more people than guns.
After that, guns may be useful occasionally, but lack of medical care would probably be more lethal. Especially with all the corpses, and the boom in rat populations.
It wouldn't be like Mad Max, or any teenage fantasies. More like the remoter areas of Pakistan.
I think you could mean, fascists vs revolutionary?
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