"teen accused of brutally stabbing israeli fogel family: ‘i’m proud of what i did’ (Iran, lawyers)

[djacques]

Originally Posted by BruSan

It suited "those others" to recognize them after-the-fact to give them legitimacy for their cause of tormenting Israel but mark my words; " as soon as any mass removal of Israelites takes place and those Palestinians assume they've won control of their very own sovereign country, they will be sadly dissabused of that notion by their own brethren in a stultifying hearbeat! The whole region knows nothing of the meaning of the word "loyalty".

That'd be no skin off your ass, would it?

Jordan and Egypt have relinquished their claims to Palestine. There is no reason to believe they wish to go back on their word, and they have no motive for doing so.

[djacques]

Originally Posted by NeilVA

Israeli soldiers, or even any soldier in any country, do not know what expect when they enter a home to arrest someone. It would have been easier to just blow up the house if they wanted to assassinate him.

They do plenty of operations like that.

Thousands mourn Hamas founder - CNN

[Pruzhany]

They do plenty of operations like that.

Thousands mourn Hamas founder - CNN

He was killed outside of the Mosque thanks to Palestinians (probably Fatah or Ba'ath) who called in his presence to the IDF. There was no way to capture him. There are numerous Palestinians who want freedom from Hamas. And this was before they found out that Arafat embezzeled Billions of dollars out of the region into private personal accounts and probably don't know that his wife,
Suha Arafat, gets $22 Million death benefits yearly while she lives a lavish life in France.

But back to your statement, The Mosque wasn't even touched.

[claudhopper]

Originally Posted by djacques

They do plenty of operations like that.

Thousands mourn Hamas founder - CNN

That was from 2004, taking out the Hamas leader of a terrorist group, that had done plenty of murders. Do you really want to call him a victim? If there were other casualties, that's what happens in war. 2004? that's the best you could do?

[BruSan]

Originally Posted by djacques

That'd be no skin off your ass, would it?

Jordan and Egypt have relinquished their claims to Palestine. There is no reason to believe they wish to go back on their word, and they have no motive for doing so.

There is every reason to believe they'll go back on their word! That has been their history. Their word changes with the seasons. Their motive would be the same one they have always had; to claim all territory as theirs under a unified Arab nation. They just have to come to terms with their own past treatment of the Palestinians as red-headed-step-children and the way they'll do that is to relegate them to the trash heap as they did before.

And no it wouldn't be any skin off my butt. It's not my butt sitting on a patch of land surrounded by people who wish me dead.

[3~Shepherds]

Originally Posted by Taras

They are flat out cold blooded murderers and have killed thousands of women and children.

People say the same of Americans, where's your proof that Israel is the one to blame? Looks like they only kill when they are being attacked.

[Taras]

Originally Posted by gsm113

You are just blindly repeating pro-Arab slogans. While it is true and unfortunate that many women and children have been killed on both sides, the difference is that Palestinian deaths are collateral damage due to accidents while Israeli civilians are specifically targeted, as seen in the focus of this thread.

Actually it takes about 25 seconds to find information that says otherwise, and im not pro arab I just don't blindly support israel no matter what they do.

[ALackOfCreativity]

Originally Posted by BruSan

There is every reason to believe they'll go back on their word! That has been their history. Their word changes with the seasons. Their motive would be the same one they have always had; to claim all territory as theirs under a unified Arab nation. They just have to come to terms with their own past treatment of the Palestinians as red-headed-step-children and the way they'll do that is to relegate them to the trash heap as they did before.

And no it wouldn't be any skin off my butt. It's not my butt sitting on a patch of land surrounded by people who wish me dead.

Jordan is a really precarious balance between the native Bedouin and Palestinians population-wise already. They would be tempted to take the West Bank (it's far better land than the east and was historically a part of Jordan for a time), but, this would probably stop them in the end.

Gaza, otoh, Egypt wouldn't take if they were offered billions to do so. Tiny piece of land, over a million very poor & militant residents. Huge headache with no upside.

[claudhopper]

Originally Posted by Taras

Actually it takes about 25 seconds to find information that says otherwise, and im not pro arab I just don't blindly support israel no matter what they do.

Most of your sources appear to come from Al Jazeera, you could save yourself some trouble and just get it directly from them.
If Israeli's were the monsters you claim them to be - do you really think they would have arrested these men that killed the Fogel family? Why not just execute them and anybody associated with them on the spot, and save everybody a lot of trouble?
The following link is to show the media bias in reporting on Israel. If you really want to know the truth, you will review some of their findings.
Syria Pays Cash For Riot, Media Takes Propaganda For Free | HonestReporting
The Photo Bias section is something to note.

[Taras]

Originally Posted by claudhopper

Most of your sources appear to come from Al Jazeera, you could save yourself some trouble and just get it directly from them.
If Israeli's were the monsters you claim them to be - do you really think they would have arrested these men that killed the Fogel family? Why not just execute them and anybody associated with them on the spot, and save everybody a lot of trouble?
The following link is to show the media bias in reporting on Israel. If you really want to know the truth, you will review some of their findings.
Syria Pays Cash For Riot, Media Takes Propaganda For Free | HonestReporting
The Photo Bias section is something to note.

Hmm ok thanks for posting that, you were partially right but there are still other things not explained by syria paying rioters or media, like that video that last I posted. As for those people they caught for killing that family they will be put to death eventually, and they deserve it.