Judge advances FOIA dispute over Obama Connecticut SS number (death, party, election)
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Born the same year? Died the same year? Died the same place? Got the number in the same place?
Nope. Not the father.
Of course. Obama's not dead yet.
In doing some more reading I am finding a Jean Paul Ludwig and that he has two SSNs, one that you have shown and the other is supposed to be the one Obama is using.
Is there a way to find out who the one Obama is using is actually registered to?
In doing some more reading I am finding a Jean Paul Ludwig and that he has two SSNs, one that you have shown and the other is supposed to be the one Obama is using.
Why would he have two Social Security numbers?
No... whoever first identified him as having the same number as Obama was simply lying. I know, I know... shocking isn't it? That a Birther might lie?
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Is there a way to find out who the one Obama is using is actually registered to?
Well... it has never been used by anybody other than Obama. He has been using it since at least 1981 when he registered for the draft. He has filed his income taxes with it for at least that last 30 years and the IRS does not appear to have ever noticed anything amiss. His employers (to include the US Senate) paid his SS withholding and never received the "no match" letters that they send to employers when SSNs don't match up with the records they have on file.
Nefarious reasons, this is a conspiracy after all.
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No... whoever first identified him as having the same number as Obama was simply lying. I know, I know... shocking isn't it? That a Birther might lie?
How do you know that?
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Well... it has never been used by anybody other than Obama. He has been using it since at least 1981 when he registered for the draft. He has filed his income taxes with it for at least that last 30 years and the IRS does not appear to have ever noticed anything amiss. His employers (to include the US Senate) paid his SS withholding and never received the "no match" letters that they send to employers when SSNs don't match up with the records they have on file.
So... figure it out.
Since Ludwig is dead, no one else would use it. I know there are a lot pf people using false SSNs, this is nothing new.
Again is there a way to look up the SSN Obama is using to see who it is registered to?
Nefarious reasons, this is a conspiracy after all.
So... a guy born in 1890 and who died in 1981 was in on the conspiracy the get Obama illegally elected almost 30 years later? That's your story?
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How do you know that?
Because we know that Ludwig's SSN was not the same as the one used by Obama.
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Since Ludwig is dead, no one else would use it. I know there are a lot pf people using false SSNs, this is nothing new.
And apparently no one else did. There is no record of anyone else using Ludwig's SSN... to include president Obama.
And... to point out again that Birthers always theorize the hardest way to get simple things done, no. People using false SSNs don't usually use those of dead adults. They instead get BCs for dead infants who never had SSNs at all, and then apply for them.
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Again is there a way to look up the SSN Obama is using to see who it is registered to?
Of course not. Such a thing would violate every privacy law on the planet.
So... a guy born in 1890 and who died in 1981 was in on the conspiracy the get Obama illegally elected almost 30 years later? That's your story?
No, someone in Obama's family applied for it because at the time whatever was needed to get a SSN would not be available if in fact he was born in Kenya.
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Because we know that Ludwig's SSN was not the same as the one used by Obama.
One wasn't but maybe one was.
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And apparently no one else did. There is no record of anyone else using Ludwig's SSN... to include president Obama.
No not the one you posted but what about the other 042 one?
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And... to point out again that Birthers always theorize the hardest way to get simple things done, no. People using false SSNs don't usually use those of dead adults. They instead get BCs for dead infants who never had SSNs at all, and then apply for them.
I doubt that back then the people involved were not as cleaver as people today.
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Of course not. Such a thing would violate every privacy law on the planet.
Well, a quick search shows many places where it can be done for a fee.
No, someone in Obama's family applied for it because at the time whatever was needed to get a SSN would not be available if in fact he was born in Kenya.
You do not have to be born in the US to get a social security card. You need to be in the US legally.
No, someone in Obama's family applied for it because at the time whatever was needed to get a SSN would not be available if in fact he was born in Kenya.
People who are foriegn born, or who are not even citizens can get SSNs.
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One wasn't but maybe one was.
There was no other.
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No not the one you posted but what about the other 042 one?
There was no such SSN for Ludwig.
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I doubt that back then the people involved were not as cleaver as people today.
People are no more clever today than they have ever been.
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Well, a quick search shows many places where it can be done for a fee.
People who are foriegn born, or who are not even citizens can get SSNs.
And he did.
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There was no other.
Link?
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There was no such SSN for Ludwig.
Link?
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People are no more clever today than they have ever been.
maybe not but certainly more informed in nefarious matters.
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So then why did you ask?
To see how you would reply and you replied as I expected you would.
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