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Old 02-20-2012, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Twin Cities, MN
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Men have all the choices they need...stay home, and be chaste. Just say "no".

No man ever got a woman pregnant by keeping it all zipped up, in lock down.
Exactly.

I find it disheartening, in this day and age, that certain males feel they should be able to run around impregnating women, willy-nilly, and then want to take no responsibility for it.

Fact: you gave up the "right" to be a dead-beat dad the moment you decided to have unprotected sex.
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Old 02-20-2012, 09:22 PM
 
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Men have all the choices they need...stay home, and be chaste. Just say "no".

No man ever got a woman pregnant by keeping it all zipped up, in lock down.
Say it one more time...
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Old 02-20-2012, 09:42 PM
 
Location: TX
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Men have all the choices they need...stay home, and be chaste. Just say "no".

No man ever got a woman pregnant by keeping it all zipped up, in lock down.
The point is, women have many MORE choices. Even after having unprotected sex, a woman can use the morning after pill, she can get an abortion (one way or another), or she could put the child up for adoption. All of these options completely free her of parental responsibilities. Once she decides, "Ehh I don't wanna be a mom", she's completely free. This is not the case for men.

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I find it disheartening, in this day and age, that certain males feel they should be able to run around impregnating women, willy-nilly, and then want to take no responsibility for it.

Fact: you gave up the "right" to be a dead-beat dad the moment you decided to have unprotected sex.
This sounds much like what "the pro-lifers" say to women in regards to abortion. That some women feel they should be able to run around getting pregnant and then not want to take responsibility for the consequences. That they gave up their right to choose when they had unprotected sex...

As I've said already, all the man does is help create a zygote. The woman's actually responsible for that zygote turning into an embryo, and then a fetus, and then a baby.
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Old 02-20-2012, 09:44 PM
 
Location: Twin Cities, MN
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The point is, women have many MORE choices. Even after having unprotected sex, a woman can use the morning after pill, she can get an abortion (one way or another), or she could put the child up for adoption. All of these options completely free her of parental responsibilities. Once she decides, "Ehh I don't wanna be a mom", she's completely free. This is not the case for men.



This sounds much like what "the pro-lifers" say to women in regards to abortion. That some women feel they should be able to run around getting pregnant and then not want to take responsibility for the consequences. That they gave up their right to choose when they had unprotected sex...

As I've said already, all the man does is help create a zygote. The woman's actually responsible for that zygote turning into an embryo, and then a fetus, and then a baby.
Do you have anything besides a straw-man argument?

I feel the same way about women as I do about men. They should abstain or use birth-control if they don't want to deal with the consequences.
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Old 02-20-2012, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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Men have all the choices they need...stay home, and be chaste. Just say "no".

No man ever got a woman pregnant by keeping it all zipped up, in lock down.
You make seem like men are just out to rape women. I see that in many cases woman have the last say in how far a courtship goes as in whether the couple will be having sex.

If a woman forces herself on a man, society turns a blind eye, but if a man forces himself on her he's going to prison for a while... so in that respect I believe woman do have the last say on whether sex can be had or not.
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Old 02-20-2012, 10:03 PM
 
Location: TX
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Do you have anything besides a straw-man argument?
Hey, if a straw-man can get the job done, why not? The question now is, are you gonna let him win?

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I feel the same way about women as I do about men. They should abstain or use birth-control if they don't want to deal with the consequences.
So you are against abortion? If so, then at least you are consistent. But you could've told us that, since that's what the OP was on about...
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Old 02-20-2012, 10:08 PM
 
Location: Armsanta Sorad
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You make seem like men are just out to rape women. I see that in many cases woman have the last say in how far a courtship goes as in whether the couple will be having sex.

If a woman forces herself on a man, society turns a blind eye, but if a man forces himself on her he's going to prison for a while... so in that respect I believe woman do have the last say on whether sex can be had or not.
Man, you are spot on. I fully agree. Apart from feminism, who's really in charge of all the anti-male bias that goes in society and the court system. Of course, I'm going to get typical women and white knights attacking me, saying I'm playing victim. I'm just telling it like it is.
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Old 02-20-2012, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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Man, you are spot on. I fully agree. Apart from feminism, who's really in charge of all the anti-male bias that goes in society and the court system. Of course, I'm going to get typical women and white knights attacking me, saying I'm playing victim. I'm just telling it like it is.
Well to be fair, men are usually physically stronger than women and men usually don't report being sexually assaulted very often.

But anyway men just hope at the end of the evening that sex will happen unless they are married in which there is no hope since all dreams and hopes have been crushed and destroyed by then
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Old 02-20-2012, 10:18 PM
 
Location: Armsanta Sorad
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Well to be fair, men are usually physically stronger than women and men usually don't report being sexually overcome very often.

But anyway men just hope at the end of the evening that sex will happen unless they are married in which there is no hope since all dreams and hopes have been crushed and destroyed by then
Yes, that's because people will laugh at the man if he reported being raped. Other men will just tell him that he probably enjoyed it or something like that. A sad reality.
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Old 02-20-2012, 10:18 PM
 
Location: The Nanny State of MD
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I really don't believe your comments, but this is an internet board and people fabricate things all the time.
Your aunt had 4 abortions and told you about it.
So you know 13 & 14 year olds who have had abortions.

Nah, doesn't wash.
Yes my aunt did tell me because she doesn't want me to make the same mistakes, that's what family does. Shame you don't understand it.
No, more like 16 and 17 year olds.
Again, I couldn't care less if you believe me or not.

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Ain't that the truth. Of course these things are going to disagree and doubt a man's decisions regardless.
Well if by things you mean feminists, which by reading your posts it seems you do, then of course they are going to disagree that men have rights.

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I'm 26 and have only personally known *not including net friends* 3 people who had abortions, yet somehow the world spills it's guts to you .
Guess so.

What I think is funny is that most of you people are blaming the men and saying that they should keep it in their pants, when by most of your opinions on things like bc it is unrealistic to think that people should just not have sex.
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