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Again with the willful ignorance. What part of pro-life democrats did you not understand?
The part where you think it is somehow relevant to the discussion.
Of course there are. So what. That does not make it any less of a political issue, in fact, it makes it more of one, because it is not something that can be easily split and labeled between two political parties.
Oh, so some life is of more value than other lives? A 3 month old is not as developed as a 3 year old, so his life is of less intrinsic worth, eh?
As soon as an egg becomes fertilized, it becomes an embryo with it's own dna.
Animals are more developed than a fetus, but that doesn't mean that pro-lifers are all vegetarians. They obviously don't believe that animals have a the right to survive and that we have the right to kill them.
Honestly, the majority of you are missing the point here. The point is that women ARE sometimes coerced into having abortions. The point is that many women suffer psychological trauma afterward. The point is that the vast majority of women do not receive the proper counseling prior to and after having the abortion, which leads to all sorts of negative feelings about the procedure and themselves.
The point is NOT the typical abortion debate about when life begins. The point is NOT my personal feelings on abortion and those who support abortion. The point is NOT to discuss choice or no choice.
Maybe I didn't phrase the OP very well, but stop going off on tangents about all this other stuff.
They are sad BECAUSE they take it very seriously. They know they are keeping a baby from being born and that is a very serious decision for them to make.
I am sure there are women who abort although they don't really want to. Some for instance simply don't have the financial resources it takes to raise a child. Or they are alone and have nobody to take care of the baby if they want to attend college (which is important for young women these days, without a college degree you will likely not have a good life later on).
Extremists'= Neo Prog code for not agreeing with them. Surprised you haven't pulled the Neo Prog trifecta yet and called me a racist and stupid.
I don't know what a "neo-prog" is, or even what you think it is. I'm a libertarian - I don't approve of the government getting invovled in personal medical decisions.
I also don't recall saying that you were racist or stupid. You are, IMHO, expressing opinions that are illogical and extremist, and doing so rather dishonestly.
Honestly, the majority of you are missing the point here. The point is that women ARE sometimes coerced into having abortions. The point is that many women suffer psychological trauma afterward. The point is that the vast majority of women do not receive the proper counseling prior to and after having the abortion, which leads to all sorts of negative feelings about the procedure and themselves.
The point is NOT the typical abortion debate about when life begins. The point is NOT my personal feelings on abortion and those who support abortion. The point is NOT to discuss choice or no choice.
Maybe I didn't phrase the OP very well, but stop going off on tangents about all this other stuff.
The exact same things could be said about women being coerced into having a baby they didn't want in the first place.
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Oh, so some life is of more value than other lives? A 3 month old is not as developed as a 3 year old, so his life is of less intrinsic worth, eh?
As soon as an egg becomes fertilized, it becomes an embryo with it's own dna.
You stated : "Plus, I never understood the people that say that it is not a life; one would have to suspend their belief and think that the pre-born baby is dead, despite brainwaves, heartbeat, etc. and then at some magical undetermined time, suddenly becomes alive" inferring brainwaves and heartbeat are the measure of the existence of a life. Are you denying that now?
The simple fact is brainwaves and a heartbeat DO NOT exist at conception and by your own previously stated standard a life DOES NOT exist at conception. Or will you continue to twist things around to support your beliefs, facts be damned?
A strand of hair contains DNA, does that make it a 'life'?
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