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Old 06-11-2011, 09:30 PM
 
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The face of this country made a paradise by the contributions of the rich alone.
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Old 06-12-2011, 12:50 AM
 
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The face of this country made a paradise by the contributions of the rich alone.
What a failed thread.

The first year we began to tax income, "the rich" were taxed at 7%, and everyone else paid 1%.

If you want to go back to the founding fathers, I'm sure the rich would agree that EVERYONE should be paying, and I'm even more than willing to bet, they'd volunteer to pay what was intended..
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Old 06-12-2011, 12:53 AM
 
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The face of this country made a paradise by the contributions of the rich alone.
Doh, I hope for your sake you are not trying to quote Jefferson. Educate yourself about his anti federalist views.
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Old 06-12-2011, 03:18 AM
 
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nonsense...........LOL.

This forum is for over the top nuts.
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Old 06-12-2011, 04:06 PM
 
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The face of this country made a paradise by the contributions of the rich alone.
Define "rich", please.
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Old 06-12-2011, 04:11 PM
 
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Define "rich", please.
Anyone who works for their own money.
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Old 06-12-2011, 04:29 PM
 
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Define "rich", please.
The 1% of the population that owns and controls 90% of the wealth. Is that rich enough for you?

Jefferson was an anti-federalist because he was an agrarian. As much as I love Jefferson and as much of a hero as he was in many ways...........he wasn't perfect nor were all of his ideas. Obviously America has moved on from an agrarian society like Jefferson envisioned. But to me he's right and that's the entire problem with America.. We need to get back to our agrarian roots. They made us independent and strong as a nation and to me agrarianism better represents what America and the Constitution was all about.
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Old 06-12-2011, 04:44 PM
 
Location: MS
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It's not the money coming into the .gov that's the problem. It's the spending. Covered very well here.


YouTube - ‪EAT THE RICH!‬‏
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Old 06-12-2011, 05:38 PM
 
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It's not the money coming into the .gov that's the problem. It's the spending. Covered very well here.


YouTube - ‪EAT THE RICH!‬‏
Haha what a crock. I'll agree that Michael Moore is a complete hypocrite but that doesn't change the facts or his message. He's not a good messenger but the message still stands. You say spending is the problem. Sure it is. Spending in the form of wars, spending in the form of government bailouts for the banks and Wallstreet, spending in the form of corporate farm subsidies, spending in the form of billions of dollars in aid to Pakistan, Saudia Arabia, and Israel. You want to attack domestic spending and welfare spending fine. Go right ahead you're right. But sure as hell don't leave out all the corporate and banking welfare that goes on under the guise of "capitalism.".
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Old 06-12-2011, 05:42 PM
 
Location: South Jordan, Utah
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The face of this country made a paradise by the contributions of the rich alone.
Not through income taxes or taxes on fruits of labor or enterprise. You really need to read up on Henry George, Geo-libertarianism and land value taxes.

The founders were anti-government supported and protected privilege, they were against natural monopolies, not success through creation and innovation.

http://geolib.com/essays/sullivan.dan/royallib.html
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