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Old 06-13-2011, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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The Nazi party was not a progressive movement, it is a far right wing movement. Communism is a far left wing movement. Why do we always have to go back to grade school with you people?

So you say.

But the label doesn't matter, does it. Why argue whether the Nazis were left wing or right wing (and if you paid attention in school, you would know that lots of experts consider them left wing). It does not matter. It's just a label and doesn't change who they were and what they believed.

The facts are that Rand did not support big governments like the Nazi party and the Communist party and like Obama.

There is absolutely no similarity between Rand and the Nazi party. In fact, they are polar opposites.
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Old 06-13-2011, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I love Ayn Rand. It's taken all the people who desire to be selfish ********s and gave them a group to be ignored.

Seriously, you can't find a philosophy closer to the fictional Sith code..which also sees giving to and loving other human beings as irrational. Mercy and humility is also frowned upon...which also sees giving to and loving other human beings as irrational. So Gandhi and Mother Theresa would be frowned upon (Objectivism holds that all forms of altruism are irrational and immoral, even if they are done voluntarily), and a company executive in India that strip mined a mountain with child labor to make himself rich would be held up as a great example.
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Old 06-13-2011, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Was Henry Ford a left winger, a secret commie perhaps?

did you know that the majority of americans supported the germans PRIOR to 1941

did you know ford, gm, and chrysler all built vehicles/equipment for hitler


btw FAIL on the left wing garbage

wow people like you still fall for the lies, the liberals(socialists) used to describe the fascists

right and left are used to describe DIFFERENCES

liberals (very left close to socialists) are LEFT of democrats who as common sense would hear, are RIGHT of liberals...those very same democrats that are RIGHT of liberals are LEFT of republicans

so to say left or right is just a description.....: "on hand you have this, one the other hand you have that".....I prefer the black/white extremes...in this end is the black color, in this end is the white color...inbetween are thousands of SHADES OF GREY


yes they fascists were right of the socialist liberals,,but they were very much left of our democrats or republicns


fascism is socialism with a captiolistic venier


fascism are very much left of our true democrats,,although slightly right of AMERICAN liberals which are a combination of socialism and fascism,,,all part of the progressive movement of the late 1800's


so endeth the lesson
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Old 06-13-2011, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Parroting something won't make it a fact. But yes, Henry Ford was a successful businessman, and a highly respected one in the Nazi world, especially by Hitler. Why?


Because Ford was good at anti-capitalist market manipulation vis-a-vis wage controls with Hoover.
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Old 06-13-2011, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Because Ford was good at anti-capitalist market manipulation vis-a-vis wage controls with Hoover.
Just as Adam Smith predicted, of "capitalists".
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Old 06-13-2011, 01:29 PM
 
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Parroting something won't make it a fact. But yes, Henry Ford was a successful businessman, and a highly respected one in the Nazi world, especially by Hitler. Why?


LOL
I don't know probably because he was a successful businessman.
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Old 06-13-2011, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Just as Adam Smith predicted, of "capitalists".
Government strongarming industry to set a floor in wages is right-winged? Maybe in "Nazi=right-winged" tin foil hat world.
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Old 06-13-2011, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I don't know probably because he was a successful businessman.
Then you should know... because of ideological similarities and loyalty to the Nazi cause.

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Government strong arming industry to set a floor in wages is right-winged?
Ford wasn't an industry, he was a businessman, looking for his best interest, and, I'm sure, spoke quite "freely" with money and other influencing factors.
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Old 06-13-2011, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Then you should know... because of ideological similarities and loyalty to the Nazi cause.
The Nazis were printing lots of money (something the Krugman Keynesian Klan would be proud of), and Ford would happily take it.
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Old 06-13-2011, 01:32 PM
 
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Then you should know... because of ideological similarities and loyalty to the Nazi cause.
That doesn't change the fact that the Nazi party was left-wing.
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