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Old 06-14-2011, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Our 60-year-old son lost his computer graphics job to India. He was laid off two years ago. He has sent out hundreds of resumes, attended job fairs, applied at temporary agencies, knocked on doors, all without any luck. He has applied for many jobs other than in the computer-graphics field.

"He spent his savings, cashed in his 401(k), and finally had to move in with us because he had no money left. He didn't apply for unemployment until he had used up all his own resources."

So workingasshero what do you say now?
well for starters he can get SS in 2 years (you say he is 60)..he was stupid to use his savings..I would live out of a box(especially at 60) before I would he rid of my life savings

2nd.. even mcdonalds pays more than UE..so your point

apparently he is sitting there saying "I am too good to work at something else"...his job went away because of liberal high tax policies.

I am 51 (not far behind him)(and plan on retiring at 55/56) and have NEVER been unemployeed for more than 6 weeks...I will find away, WITHOUT the government giving me a handout...I will clean toilets before I will take a government handout

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Old 06-14-2011, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Hillsboro, OR
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We're Americans. You know...citizens of a first world country. Uh...we can't afford to look out for fellow Americans who have come into hard times, but there are hundreds of billions to bring "democracy" to foreign countries? Wow...that's odd.

The "ethics" should be self explanatory if you have a pulse. It's the right thing to do. That's why we have unemployment insurance. You'd think that one wouldn't have to tell someone something as simple as that.
It's the underlying problem with individualistic conservatives. They don't care about their fellow Americans, all they care about is what they do and how successful they are. If the population as a whole thought that way, we'd be a fallen anarchy.
 
Old 06-14-2011, 01:49 PM
 
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And please explain where this money to pay all these unemployment benefits are going to come from?

And don't say: End war. End corporate welfare. And the typical liberal mantra's. You have the most liberal/socialist president in history in office and, until recently, a democratically controlled Congress and NONE of that has ended. Its increased.

So, on a realistic scale and realistically speaking, where is this money going to come from? Simple answer: MY TAX DOLLAR.

Yes, ofcourse liberals pay taxes. Liberals want every social "net" program, under the sun and then some. However, they want someone else to pay for them. Ever see thread after thread of: Pay for this, pay for that, by raising taxes on the rich?

If YOU Mr/Mrs Liberal want all these programs, YOU PAY FOR THEM. Don't force me too. I don't want them, nor do I need them. And save the: You might need them someday. Maybe I will, maybe I won't. HOWEVER, I'll deal with myself and my family.

I DO NOT expect YOU to pay more out of YOUR paycheck, so I can live. Its MY responsibility. Not yours. You know, that sticky thing of personal responsibility liberals cannot and refuse to take part in.
Do you know the difference between unemployment benefits and Welfare?
 
Old 06-14-2011, 01:49 PM
 
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This is an extremely anti-business decision. These benefits go back into the economy.
 
Old 06-14-2011, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Hillsboro, OR
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well for starters he can get SS in 2 years (you say he is 60)..he was stupid to use his savings..I would live out of a box(especially at 60) before I would he rid of my life savings

2nd.. even mcdonalds pays more than UE..so your point

apparently he is sitting there saying "I am too good to work at something else"...his job went away because of liberal high tax policies.

I am 51 (not far nehind him) and have NEVER been unemployeed for more than 6 weeks...I will find away, WITHOUT the government giving me a handout...I will clean toilets before I will take a government handout
What if he wasn't 60, but your age? ...and what would he do for 2 years? The poster also said he applied for jobs OTHER than what is in his field. Please read or get out of the conversation.

You say that now, but when you can't even get the job cleaning toilets, I'm sure you'd be more than willing to take the unemployment check.
 
Old 06-14-2011, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Dublin, CA
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Do you know the difference between unemployment benefits and Welfare?
Here we go again...Yes, I've heard it ALL before: I paid into unemployment so I DESERVE these benefits. First off, that statement is only partially true. MANY people don't pay a dime into unemployment, yet have gotten 99 weeks of it: All on the taxpayer dime.

Not too mention, there are MILLIONS of people who had a job for 6 months, a year. They didn't pay into the system ANYWHERE NEAR what they are getting out of it (the same as Social Security).

So save it. You can slice it, dice it, chop it, and spin doctor it anyway you want. And, I notice you didn't answer the overriding question: Where is the money going to come from? If you want to extend "unemployment benefits" to these poor unfortunate people, who can't find a job in almost two years, YOU PAY FOR IT. Don't force me too.
 
Old 06-14-2011, 02:00 PM
 
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well for starters he can get SS in 2 years (you say he is 60)..he was stupid to use his savings..I would live out of a box(especially at 60) before I would he rid of my life savings

2nd.. even mcdonalds pays more than UE..so your point

apparently he is sitting there saying "I am too good to work at something else"...his job went away because of liberal high tax policies.

I am 51 (not far behind him)(and plan on retiring at 55/56) and have NEVER been unemployeed for more than 6 weeks...I will find away, WITHOUT the government giving me a handout...I will clean toilets before I will take a government handout
Yea. Sure you will.

Totally believable.
 
Old 06-14-2011, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Hillsboro, OR
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Here we go again...Yes, I've heard it ALL before: I paid into unemployment so I DESERVE these benefits. First off, that statement is only partially true. MANY people don't pay a dime into unemployment, yet have gotten 99 weeks of it: All on the taxpayer dime.
Prove it. We have laws in this nation that generally prevent that.

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Not too mention, there are MILLIONS of people who had a job for 6 months, a year. They didn't pay into the system ANYWHERE NEAR what they are getting out of it (the same as Social Security).
There are people who, oh say 3 months into having health insurance, have a major diagnosis/operation, etc. There are also people who have had said health insurance for 30 years without taking an amount from the insurance company anywhere near the bill the person getting the surgery is. Why should the person get the surgery on the other person's dime?

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So save it. You can slice it, dice it, chop it, and spin doctor it anyway you want. And, I notice you didn't answer the overriding question: Where is the money going to come from? If you want to extend "unemployment benefits" to these poor unfortunate people, who can't find a job in almost two years, YOU PAY FOR IT. Don't force me too.
You are responsible for it as an American citizen. It's a benefit there for your using if you need it. Just like anything else.
 
Old 06-14-2011, 02:04 PM
 
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Let all the Red States cut it...let people get a nice up close and personal look at the Republican mantra...Screw the people that make America work while they are at their most vulnerable.
 
Old 06-14-2011, 02:04 PM
 
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It's the underlying problem with individualistic conservatives. They don't care about their fellow Americans, all they care about is what they do and how successful they are.
And trust me...these conservatives in here talking all of this individualistic crap aren't anymore successful than anyone else. In fact, most are just like every other American....simply making it from check to check and lucky to be saving much of anything. Please. Don't buy for a second that these guys are as successful as they claim to be.

If any of these conservatives on here lost their jobs, they'll run, not walk, to the unemployment office in a minute to go and collect their money. The B.S. they're talking on here is just some nonsense that they hear on Limbaugh, then they come here and test it out on C-D. They suck off of the same federal teet as much as anyone else.

LOL @ all the fake "rugged individualism" around C-D. Tell it to someone else.
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