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View Poll Results: Who is more to blame for the degradation of American politics: voters or politicians?
voters 3 42.86%
politicians 4 57.14%
Voters: 7. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-17-2011, 03:59 PM
 
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We are in an era in which we demonize politicians but let's look at ourselves. I think voters are more polarized than ever. Look at this forum. In my view, voters are the problem. Voters have become sports fans and if their team/politician is in charge, they will say all the right things to support him or her. If their team/politician is not in charge, they will contrive arguments to say they are the worst ever.

What happened to intelligent political discourse based on policy? When did we stop evaluating Presidents on policy and instead focus on trivial things like their accent, who their church leaders are, and who their friends are. And whatever happened to the idea that we can agree with some policies and disagree with others instead of pretending we are all Yankees or Red Sox fans and that if the other team is in power, everything they do is horrible.

I blame voters. Politicians have tried to sell out to voters who have become so partisan and extremist in their views that politicians can't be honest and have mixed views any longer.
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Old 06-17-2011, 04:01 PM
 
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I would lean more toward the voters are the problem. Take government debt as an example. Voters throw out those who cut spending or throw out those who raise taxes, but also complain about government debt. It makes no sense, that's why I mostly blame the voters.
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Old 06-17-2011, 04:03 PM
 
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I would lean more toward the voters are the problem. Take government debt as an example. Voters throw out those who cut spending or throw out those who raise taxes, but also complain about government debt. It makes no sense, that's why I mostly blame the voters.
Well said, another example is the war. Voters complain you are too soft if you don't engage in war and then complain we are spending too much money and causing deaths by engaging in it. It makes no sense.
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Old 06-17-2011, 04:05 PM
 
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Voters, especially the ones that keep reelecting the same trash over and over expecting a different result.
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Old 06-17-2011, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Exeter, NH
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Until we have an election where there is a Libertarian on the ballot, the politicians and the political system are to blame--since there is NOBODY we can vote for who will represent the Middle Class.

I would like to think enough intelligent people are left in America that if we got the chance to vote Libertarian, we would be able to ignore the media attempt to marginalize and demonize the party of Thomas Jefferson and the Founding Fathers. I would hope enough people would do the research and find out that the ONLY political party that offers a change of ANY KIND is the Libertarian Party.

After a lifetime of hoping either the Democrat or the Republican would win, and then realizing that NOTHING changes in American no matter which of the 2 parties is in power, I hope others can see that we now have to do things differently, or simply continue to decline and collapse.
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Old 06-17-2011, 04:34 PM
 
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Politicians are borne out of the general public, are they not?
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Old 06-17-2011, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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Lying, hypocritical politicians are the main problem.
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Old 06-17-2011, 04:37 PM
 
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Both. Most voters are incredibly uninformed, and our politicians tend to be opportunistic elites concerned primarily with lengthening their stay in power.

The politicians provide distractions and misdirections, and voters who are unwilling to think for themselves regurgitate talking points as if they themselves thought them up.
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Old 06-17-2011, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Austin
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You can only vote for the people who run and the Dems and Reps control who runs.
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Old 06-17-2011, 04:42 PM
 
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Flawed poll: needed a BOTH option, couldn't vote.
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