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Originally Posted by Felix C
I will toss it so long a you do.
You started it and you're stupid if you think you're getting the last at bat
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Originally Posted by Felix C
UN was the lynchpin as the United States could not be considered an outlaw state so long as it had UN sanction. UN represents the community of nations and there can be no extra-legal accusations if a country has their approval. Terrorism has many forms but it is never legal. This UN approval maintains the U.S. as acting in a legal fashion which is something that terrorist non-national organizations or state sponsored terrorists can claim.
I wonder if this UN approval is what keeps now retired U.S. leaders from facing international war crimes tribunals.
Using the UN as justification for anything is a sure sign there's no real justification.
BTW, If you're so insisten the US does not involve itself in acts of terror, what do you call it when we deliberately target foreign civilian leaders when they don't follow our agenda?
Again you are stupid if you believe war is clear and simple.
War was considered necessary in no small part by Hussein's own actions. The U.S. miliary, intelligence, poltical leaders, European, and UN believed it. Invasion was authorized after one year of analysis.
Basic definitions are needed here. Terror is synonymous with illegal manifestations of violence against any target. War is bound by terms of conduct against civilians and the military. The U.S. has not deliberately targeted civilians since the bombing of Japan in 1945.
Using the UN as justification for anything is a sure sign there's no real justification.
Community of nations at work going back to Korean intervention. There has to be a system of order among nations.
The U.S. as the nominal leader of the free world at that time could not act in any other fashion than to secure UN approval for intervention. U.S. also trying to bring as many other nations into the global war against terror as possible. Best means would be to use the UN. Doing so would also force states which harbored terroists to expel them or face consequences.
When did the Taliban become an upright, law abiding political organization, in good standing.
Afghan leader says U.S. in contact with Taliban - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110618/ts_nm/us_afghanistan_talks - broken link)
Not much choice there. You can't win against the Taliban, so you have to choose between admitting defeat or trying to achieve a kind of ceasefire in order not to lose face - and billions and billions of dollars in the future...
UN authorized invasion of both Iraq and Afghanistan.
Most certainly not Iraq. The US tried every trick in the book to get UN authorization and ended up falling back on the idea that the US had the right to invade and enforce Security Council resolutions over the express protests of the very same Security Council.
Most certainly not Iraq. The US tried every trick in the book to get UN authorization and ended up falling back on the idea that the US had the right to invade and enforce Security Council resolutions over the express protests of the very same Security Council.
Security Resolution 678 and 1441
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