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View Poll Results: What do you think are the main attributors to the acheivement gap?
IQ/genetic differences among races 18 26.47%
Differences in parenting styles among different cultures 33 48.53%
Racial bias amongst educators 2 2.94%
Socioeconomic status 26 38.24%
None of the above/Other (please elaborate) 11 16.18%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 68. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-19-2011, 06:27 PM
 
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This is from an older article from Education Week, but the premise still applies:

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The "achievement gap" in education refers to the disparity in academic performance between groups of students. It is most often used to describe the troubling performance gaps between many African-American and Hispanic students, at the lower end of the performance scale, and their non-Hispanic white peers, and the similar academic disparity between students from low-income and well-off families. The achievement gap shows up in grades, standardized-test scores, course selection, dropout rates, and college-completion rates. It has become a focal point of education reform efforts.
Research Center: Achievement Gap

So why do we continue to see such pervasive gaps in achievement between different races and classes? It can't just be attributed to poor inner city schools vs. affluent suburban schools because the same gaps are seen within a school when results are broken down by race and socioeconomic status.

While there is correlation between socioeconomic status and achievement, there is also correlation between race and achievement. Is it the natural result of variation in students’ genetic makeup and natural ability, cultural and parenting differences, or socioeconomic levels?
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Old 06-19-2011, 07:18 PM
 
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Does it matter?
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Old 06-19-2011, 07:22 PM
 
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Socioeconomic status
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Old 06-19-2011, 07:27 PM
 
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Unless you people are willing to say Asians are genetically superior intellectually to whites (based on test scores)...the smart answer would be Socioeconomic status or Parenting Style.
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Old 06-19-2011, 07:43 PM
 
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Unless you people are willing to say Asians are genetically superior intellectually to whites (based on test scores)...the smart answer would be Socioeconomic status or Parenting Style.
a lot of people would say the difference between whites and blacks is IQ/genetic and the difference between whites and Asians is parenting style

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Old 06-19-2011, 07:50 PM
 
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The main difference is money. Many white kids who struggle come from homes that have enough money to afford top notch tutoring. Many children of other races who struggle do not.

People are often quick to point out that even minority children who attend schools in affulent areas lag behind the white kids. What is left out of the equation is the fact that these minority children often times come from families that make half the income or less than the average student's family who attends the affluent school.

Black, Hispanic, Asian, Jewish Norwegians from Mars that have the same amount of money as the average families in the affluent neighborhoods can afford the top notch tutors. In turn, their kids don't struggle.
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Old 06-19-2011, 07:51 PM
 
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Discipline.
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Old 06-19-2011, 07:51 PM
 
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Unless you people are willing to say Asians are genetically superior intellectually to whites (based on test scores)...the smart answer would be Socioeconomic status or Parenting Style.
Perhaps we have misjudged these pseudoscientists as racist, when really they're just pervy Asiaphiles.
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Old 06-19-2011, 08:05 PM
 
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Unless you people are willing to say Asians are genetically superior intellectually to whites (based on test scores)...the smart answer would be Socioeconomic status or Parenting Style.
While statistics say absolutely nothing about an individual, they do say things about general populations. In many areas of IQ, Asians do score higher than Western caucasians. I don't see a problem acknowledging this. It does not imply that any specific caucasian is less intelligent, or would necessarily score better on IQ tests than a specific Asian. It just says that if you give the two groups tests on intelligence, the Asians will probably score better overall.

Statistics is an interesting field that is typically misunderstood by those who have not familiarized themselves with it. For example, a bell curve charting the IQ distribution of men will typically be much more flat than one charting women's IQs. In other words, there are more women clustered around the average IQ, while there are more men at the ends (very gifted versus very intellectually challenged). However, the highest IQ recorded in the Guinness Book of World Records belongs to a woman. While you might predict that the highest IQ should belong to a male, since they have more individuals at the high end of IQ, this doesn't make any of the statistics wrong or less reliable.

The "smart" answer, in my opinion, would involve not starting from the premise that caucasians are the smartest race on earth, because we are caucasian.
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Old 06-19-2011, 08:06 PM
 
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Blacks are dumb. OP, Is that the answer you are looking for ?
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