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Location: Everybody is going to hurt you, you just gotta find the ones worth suffering for-B Marley
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Btw, if labels are to be completely trustworthy, they'd remove 'calories' from it and leave sodium and carbohydrates. Even fat isn't as big a concern as carbs. Labels are getting better, slowly. If the fed wants to help in this area, fine, push for education in schools on how to educate ourselves on labels. Don't try to choose FOR me.
If the fed wants to help in this area, fine, push for education in schools on how to educate ourselves on labels. Don't try to choose FOR me.
I think that's a fair argument. The problem is that the industry won't regulate itself. They are only after the bottom line. What is the solution, if it's not government regulations? I think it's too idealistic to believe that the general public would make good food choices and force the industry into regulations on its own.
You're dog isn't that free because you have trained him and exert control on his behavior. A wild animal that hasn't learned what it means to sit or stay for a treat or to scratch the door to go outside to relieve itself is much more free than the educated dog under your roof. It's a nice philosophical point, but flawed.
Isn't that free requires that understanding, which comes from knowledge of what it takes to do better. Without much ado, I just quote the following wise words and move on...
"A nation under a well regulated government, should permit none to remain uninstructed. It is monarchical and aristocratical government only that requires ignorance for its support."
- Thomas Paine
I'm pretty sure the idea here was knowledge as opposed to ignorance, as a tool towards liberty.
Btw, if labels are to be completely trustworthy, they'd remove 'calories' from it and leave sodium and carbohydrates. Even fat isn't as big a concern as carbs. Labels are getting better, slowly. If the fed wants to help in this area, fine, push for education in schools on how to educate ourselves on labels. Don't try to choose FOR me.
You know, packaged food didn't ALWAYS have nutrition labels on it. I'll bet when it first became mandatory to disclose that information on the package the same players were totally UPSET about THAT. "Ooo, it's going to raise prices because it's going to cost the manufacturer's more", yadda, yadda.
Now you take it for granted!
LOL
I remember the Fair Packaging and Labeling Act of 1965. It became law in 1967, and the biggest controvertial issue at the time was the additional cost that the labels would add to the product. The government was not banning safe products then, like they are now. They merely made information about the product available to the consumer, and the consumer made the choice whether or not to buy the product. Now neither the consumer nor the manufacturer will have that choice.
Anyone who takes their liberties for granted does not deserve them.
Location: Everybody is going to hurt you, you just gotta find the ones worth suffering for-B Marley
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I think that's a fair argument. The problem is that the industry won't regulate itself. They are only after the bottom line. What is the solution, if it's not government regulations? I think it's too idealistic to believe that the general public would make good food choices and force the industry into regulations on its own.
There are countless things that could be viewed as a threat to people, not just food. Speeding and other bad driving habits, some sports and hobbies, just to name a couple. But they are choices. Choices--good and bad--have consequences--good and bad. If this is allowed--regulate what you can and can't eat-- it's just one step closer to waking up with the fed in your bed.
What ever happened to self determination, and personal freedom?
it went out the door when Americans decided that they wanted society to provide them with healthcare. since healthcare is ultimately socialized, I support this kind of regulation to help keep American children from becoming waddling megafauna.
I think a better idea would be to have two classes of Americans
class A supports themselves financially, and gets the freedom to make their own choices.
class B relies on the government for financial support, and has to eat whatever the government tells them.
Location: Everybody is going to hurt you, you just gotta find the ones worth suffering for-B Marley
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So you think labels have some value?
Some is the operative word. I'm just learning to educate myself on label reading and was shocked to learn calories is a useless thing on labels, that low-fat more often than not means replaced with more carbs or sodium, etc. There's a lot to know but the internet is loaded with information.
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