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Old 06-22-2011, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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The government has intruded way to far in their attempt to control the population. What next, Prozac mandated in the food to keep the population calm?

The government needs to concentrate on governing, not attempting to control the lives and thoughts of the people. IMO
The federal government is not supposed to govern us, that is for the states and local governments. All the fed needs to do is protect our rights and freedoms, manage our immigration policies and international trade and protect our nation from hostile aggressors. they sure as hell have no business taking away the Cheese Puffs I bought, because some bureaucrat thinks they are a bit too salty for me.
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Old 06-22-2011, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Remember that Omnibus bill with the 10,000 earmarks that 0bama signed in 2009? Well buried in that bill was a process where the feds will be coming to take away your Girl Scout Cookies. Well, not exactly taking them away, but forcing the manufactures to make changes to the recipe to make them healthy cookies.

I'm sure you you drones on the left will claim that we should be happy that someone is looking out for our health, I mean ... who wants to eat unhealthy food? We have nutrition labels on packaged food, we can read it for ourselves and make our own choices on what we eat. These tyrants want to remove freedom of choice, and decide for us what they think we should be allowed to eat.

When the First Lady lobbied the US congress to regulate children's school lunches, the people on the left made the argument that the feds were only making sure our taxpayer dollars for school lunches were be going to quality food for our kids. I said that these busy-bodies would not be satisfied with regulating just school lunches, they craved power and control and they would expand their reach.

My point was that these people were obsessed with controlling us, and they would not stop with school lunches. So here we are, federal bureaucrats are now telling food manufactures, to include TV advertisers, how they should formulate their food products and how they should advertize these products.

Obama's Food Police in Staggering Crackdown on Market to Kids - HUMAN EVENTS

Tony the Tiger, some NASCAR drivers and cookie-selling Girl Scouts will be out of a job unless grocery manufacturers agree to reinvent a vast array of their products to satisfy the Obama administration’s food police.

Either retool the recipes to contain certain levels of sugar, sodium and fats, or no more advertising and marketing to tots and teenagers, say several federal regulatory agencies.

The same goes for restaurants

The “Interagency Working Group on Food Marketed to Children, Preliminary Proposed Nutrition Principles to Guide Industry Self-Regulation Efforts” says it is voluntary, but industry officials say the intent is clear: Do it, or else.



Here is a link to the government's 27 page PDF file:

The Working Group’s proposed nutrition principles are designed for the specific purpose of guiding the industry in determining which foods are appropriate to market to children. The proposed nutrition principles, therefore, include adjustments in specific recommendations to reflect the fact that the principles would apply to individual products and, specifically, to foods that are most heavily marketed to children ages 2-17 years, rather than to an overall diet.

Finally, the Working Group recognizes that full voluntary industry adoption of the principles may only be possible through phased implementation over a reasonable period of time. As part of its Report to Congress, the Working Group will discuss incremental adoption of the proposed principles and a suggested time frame for full implementation of these principles in the marketplace. The Working Group does not intend to propose a specific process for such phased implementation. Individual companies should develop an implementation process and set interim goals that are most workable for them. The Working Group, however, does seek more general comment on its proposed goal that the industry fully implement the nutrition principles for all foods within the categories most heavily marketed to children by the year 2016.


Where do these bureaucrats get off thinking we want them "determining which foods are appropriate to market"??? These damn bureaucrats already determine what cars we are allowed to drive, what light bulbs we can use and what toilets we can flush, now they want to dictate what foods we should be allowed to eat?

What ever happened to self determination, and personal freedom? why are we smart enough to vote for these politicians, but not smart enough to choose our own food? Oh sure, we are free to buy whatever food we want, except the choices available to us are dictated by bunch of unelected bureaucrats in a nanny-state government agency group.

I'm sure the same people who claimed 0bama was just regulating school lunches, was not going to expand this federal regulation of our food. They said he was just trying to make sure schools served nutritious school lunches. these same people will also make the claim that 0bama will not expand these new self-regulations into mandates on all food, to control the food for the entire nation.

These people are busy-bodies, they live to impose their own ideas of the way life should be, and then use the power of an all powerful federal government to ram it down our throats.

What's next? Will they take those 5lb bags of sugar, salt and flour off the store shelves? If we cannot be trusted to buy f healthy food on our own, then why should we be trusted with possibly baking unhealthy at home, or adding too much salt or sugar to the food we buy?

If you think this is bad, how tyrannical will government get when it is paying for our health care? Wait and see how concerned about our food they become, when the federal budget is directly affected by our physical health and our life style choices?
Very well said, and you are exactly right - this is only the tip of the ice-berg. Under the guise of reducing federal health care costs there will be a long laundry list of additional restrictions placed on our liberties.

These fascist socialists know they can never achieve power if the American voter knew who they really are, so they reinvent themselves by pretending to be "liberals" from the 1960s to the 1990s, and then reinvent themselves again during the 1990s by pretending to be "progressives", when in reality they are neither. Democrats continue to hold dear the same fascist socialist agenda from the 1930s.
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Old 06-22-2011, 09:32 AM
 
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Given their druthers companies would still be selling decayed meat and rat turd contaminated flour. Weaning kids from sugar and fructose laden foods is a very good idea for the kids but less so for the producers. Apparently the combination of salt, sugar and fat short circuits the appetite so people over eat.
That is common sense, making sure the food is not poisonous to us, infected with harmful disease or bacteria.

We have nutrition labels, read the labels on the packaged food you buy, and decide for yourself if you want to eat it. It's really that simple. Unless you are a simple-minded drone, then you want nanny-state government bureaucrats to decide what food can even be placed on the shelves, and even how the manufacturer is allowed to advertise that product on TV.

Some of the folks here need to go live in an authoritarian dictatorship, where all their choices are made for them.
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Old 06-22-2011, 09:32 AM
 
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When I first saw this thread, I assumed it was an old thread made before the creation of the FDA. No one here has lived during a time when the federal government was not regulating the food we have access to.
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Old 06-22-2011, 09:36 AM
 
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Stated intent rarely aligns with result.
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Old 06-22-2011, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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These fascist socialists know they can never achieve power if the American voter...
I wasn't aware that Fascists wrote policies that corporations hated. After all, fascism was about corporations writing policies that favored THEM. How does this fit that profile?
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Old 06-22-2011, 09:43 AM
 
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Very well said, and you are exactly right - this is only the tip of the ice-berg. Under the guise of reducing federal health care costs there will be a long laundry list of additional restrictions placed on our liberties.

These fascist socialists know they can never achieve power if the American voter knew who they really are, so they reinvent themselves by pretending to be "liberals" from the 1960s to the 1990s, and then reinvent themselves again during the 1990s by pretending to be "progressives", when in reality they are neither. Democrats continue to hold dear the same fascist socialist agenda from the 1930s.
These liberal drones are the same people who claim they are for freedom, and then embrace tyranny. You hear them shout at government to "Stay out of our bedrooms" and then they beg government to come into their food pantry, their toilets, their cars, their light fixtures, their appliances, their homes, TV, radio and doctor's offices.

Once we allow them to control what food I can buy off the store shelves or order from a restaurant, will there be any decision or choice available to me that does not first require the pre-approval of some faceless, nameless bureaucrat?
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Old 06-22-2011, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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That is common sense, making sure the food is not poisonous to us, infected with harmful disease or bacteria.

We have nutrition labels, read the labels on the packaged food you buy, and decide for yourself if you want to eat it. It's really that simple. Unless you are a simple-minded drone, then you want nanny-state government bureaucrats to decide what food can even be placed on the shelves, and even how the manufacturer is allowed to advertise that product on TV.

Some of the folks here need to go live in an authoritarian dictatorship, where all their choices are made for them.
I have no problem with government mandated labeling of ingredients or nutritional information on food products, but government crosses the line when they mandate what those food products must or must not contain.

As you said, labeling gives the consumer an informed choice, but when government dictates the products manufacturers can use in their food product, then government has removed all choice from the consumer as well as the manufacturer.
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Old 06-22-2011, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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I wasn't aware that Fascists wrote policies that corporations hated. After all, fascism was about corporations writing policies that favored THEM. How does this fit that profile?
No, the fascists run the country, not the corporations. The fascists use the corporations to make themselves wealthy, the government controls everything, even the corporations.
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Old 06-22-2011, 09:46 AM
 
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These liberal drones are the same people who claim they are for freedom, and then embrace tyranny. You hear them shout at government to "Stay out of our bedrooms" and then they beg government to come into their food pantry, their toilets, their cars, their light fixtures, their appliances, their homes, TV, radio and doctor's offices.

Once we allow them to control what food I can buy off the store shelves or order from a restaurant, will there be any decision or choice available to me that does not first require the pre-approval of some faceless, nameless bureaucrat?
I'm wondering if Liberals justify Glenn Beck, like the Main Stream Media justifies Jon Stewart.
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