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Old 06-28-2011, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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This answer is real simple, raise the pay and charge more for the food.

Have everyone on welfare, section 9 and food stamps come and earn their living by working.
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Old 06-28-2011, 10:52 AM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Let them rot. GA deserves it.
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Old 06-28-2011, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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This answer is real simple, raise the pay and charge more for the food.
Why do you think pay is the issue here ?
48% of foreign ag workers have these visas and are working in the US.
This may be just greed and "can't be bothered to do the paperwork" on the part of the farmer.
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Old 06-28-2011, 11:09 AM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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I wonder if these are government run subized farms :-)
Maybe they actually have to hire people and god forbid even pay them minimum wage or even more then that. This is nothing more then farmers not use to paying REAL PRICES for labor and got use to ILLEGAL immgrants wages.
Do not look to the farmers for the problem. They make very little money growing the food that sustains us.

Look to the CONAGRA, MONSANTO, and other middle men who make BILLIONS of dollars profit on the food that is grown.

20yrsinBranson
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Old 06-28-2011, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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$355/week is the max GA pays for unemployment...no-brainer there.

It's just too easy to not work these days.
That's it exactly. We have become such a benefits country that nobody feels the need to work for low wage jobs. Those social welfare programs are interfering in the supply-demand equation for farm worker jobs. If those social welfare programs were scaled back then the basic economic laws of supply-demand would resume working as they always do in a free market.
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Old 06-28-2011, 11:28 AM
 
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Here in Branson there are labor companies who provide HA2/HB2 workers to hotels and restaurants on an ad hoc basis. The labor companies are the employer and they fill out the paperwork well in advance of the actual need. We have workers from Jamaica, El Salvador, Guatamala and lots of Russians.

This would seem like an EXCELLENT business to start in Georgia for some motivated entrepreneur with a little capital.

20yrsinBranson
Sounds a lot like the old plantation owners of the deep south, prior to the Civil War, dontcha think?

Systematic, organized slave labor gangs .... does it make a difference that these people are foreigners? Does that make slavery OK?

How much more can this issue be simplified in order to strike a favorable neurological response from you people here?

Offer a decent livable wage, and close the freaking border. We already have all of the jobs that can be moved overseas being moved ... now, you want to bring in the slave labor to do the work that is physically impossible to move off shore?

Only a teeny tiny portion of the overall retail cost of these products on the grocery store shelves is in labor for harvesting. PENNIES !!!!!!! Not dimes, not dollars ... PENNIES !!!!

5 freaking pennies per lb ... one stinking bloody @$#& nickle per lb increase in retail would raise the pay from $8 to $20+ an hour, and plenty of American workers would gladly do the work .... no busing and housing of immigrants required ... no complex government paperwork .... nothing.

It's very simple. It's called free market ... free enterprise. If you need labor, you pay for the labor .... if no one is willing to do the labor for the pay offered ... you're not offering enough! We built the GD country this way .... America can grow, harvest and feed itself without assistance from Mexican laborers .... and we can build our own damned houses too ... imagine that!

Really ... this is easy .... we need two things to accomplish this fix ...

1) We need a public, who's IQs are closer to their ages rather than their show sizes

2) Replacing government with officials that are not hell bent on destroying the country.

It's really that simple.
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Old 06-28-2011, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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Why do you think pay is the issue here ?
48% of foreign ag workers have these visas and are working in the US.
This may be just greed and "can't be bothered to do the paperwork" on the part of the farmer.
Well, it can't be greed, if the crops are rotting in the field, the farmer isn't making anything, so that doesn't make sense.

Farmers don't make that much anyways, so, if money is the issue, pay more, and charge more.

Additionally. Contact the state employment office, let em know your hiring. If there are people in that area out of work, here is a job... If they don't take the job, they stop receiving benefits.
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Old 06-28-2011, 11:42 AM
 
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In case no one brought it up, wanted to mention that even though the base wage is minimum wage for the majority of the farm jobs, some (illegal immigrants) right now make up to $20 an hour as they get bonuses for the amounts/weight of the crop they pick. So it is not an extremely low paying job. And maybe they have raised the unemployment maximum, but a friend of mine was getting the max and he said it was $330 a week, enough for him since he is a single guy.

They are in the process of creating a state migrant worker's program here in GA because many of the farmers view the federal program as too costly so they are looking to create their own.

The main reason these crops are rotting in the fields though is because of laziness. If I didn't have a job, or my husband, we would go down there, at least one of us and work and try to make $20 an hour picking crops. Everyone who is reading this and is unemployed and may be making excuses about not being in an area where there are jobs, you should come to GA and work in the fields.
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Old 06-28-2011, 11:43 AM
 
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Do not look to the farmers for the problem. They make very little money growing the food that sustains us.

Look to the CONAGRA, MONSANTO, and other middle men who make BILLIONS of dollars profit on the food that is grown.

20yrsinBranson
Now you are on the right track!!!

That's why I say you can EASILY pay a wage commensurate with attracting American labor to do this work ... it's only the government and big industry and their insatiable GREED that pushes this agenda. The industry uses these free trade agreements and the prices of imports (using slave labor) that forces Farmers to cut to the bone in wholesale prices.

Stop that ... and farmers could then be profitable ... pay good wages to American workers ... and our entire economy would benefit greatly, with minimal increase in costs to the consumer.

The same thing applies across the board .... textile manufacturing ... construction .... ALL OF IT !

THIS COUNTRY IS DIEING .... the American worker is DIEING. We've been force fed lies, and it's time to wake up.
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Old 06-28-2011, 11:49 AM
 
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Here is an article that speaks of an immigrant making $20 an hour picking cucumbers.
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