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Old 06-27-2011, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Nothing new about the numbers who want it repealed but some change has showed up in the numbers of those who think it will help them in the long run.

Health Care Law - Rasmussen Reports™
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Old 06-27-2011, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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In before "Rasmussen is a tool of the Republican party" tinfoilhattery.
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Old 06-27-2011, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Nothing new about the numbers who want it repealed but some change has showed up in the numbers of those who think it will help them in the long run.

Health Care Law - Rasmussen Reports™
Haven't I already shown you that Rasmussen's polls are way off because of their definition of "likely voters"?

They literally poll more GOP voters, saying that they vote more often then liberal voters.

Of course the poll will fail badly when you are polling mostly GOP voters.

Now I don't like the Obama healthcare law as it sits today, personally I'd favor some national standard of care for everyone. Thats another problem with Rasmussen polls like this, they only give you two choices, yes or no. Many of those that would favor repeal would likely want a new law that gives them more coverage and cost the tax payers more money.

The healthcare law is far from perfect, but its sure as hell a lot better then it was status quo before, and its a hell of a lot better then Ryan's plan would have left people with.

Give people a viable alternative, and don't say "well if you privatize", because medicare part-D proved that little idea a colossal failure.
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Old 06-27-2011, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Haven't I already shown you that Rasmussen's polls are way off because of their definition of "likely voters"?

They literally poll more GOP voters, saying that they vote more often then liberal voters.

Of course the poll will fail badly when you are polling mostly GOP voters.
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Old 06-27-2011, 11:05 AM
 
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Nothing new about the numbers who want it repealed but some change has showed up in the numbers of those who think it will help them in the long run.

Health Care Law - Rasmussen Reports™
Who cares if people want it repealed or not. The Supreme Court will toss the law out and it won't matter any more.
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Old 06-27-2011, 11:09 AM
 
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Who cares if people want it repealed or not. The Supreme Court will toss the law out and it won't matter any more.

Your lips to God's Ears....
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Old 06-27-2011, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Who cares if people want it repealed or not. The Supreme Court will toss the law out and it won't matter any more.
You know this with certainty? How?
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Old 06-27-2011, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Yeah, I can show you quotes from Rasmussen themselves saying that their polling methods aren't the same as everyone elses, and show bias on several of their polls.

Can you disprove what even they say?

NYT calls out Rasmussen for conservative bias in Wisconsin poll | The Raw Story

"Because of the problems with question design, my advice would be simply to disregard the Rasmussen Reports poll, and to view their work with extreme skepticism going forward," Silver concluded.

Rasmussen, fending off years of criticisms of harboring a Republican-leaning bias, is taken very seriously by the mainstream press. Its founder and president, Scott Rasmussen, has openly supported conservative causes and is a former writer for the conspiracy-minded website World Net Daily.

Scott Rasmussen has said that if you poll randomly that you get to many "non voters" in the poll, meaning left leaning people.

Rasmussen is biased, plain and simple.
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Old 06-27-2011, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Yeah, I can show you quotes from Rasmussen themselves saying that their polling methods aren't the same as everyone elses, and show bias on several of their polls.

Can you disprove what even they say?

NYT calls out Rasmussen for conservative bias in Wisconsin poll | The Raw Story

"Because of the problems with question design, my advice would be simply to disregard the Rasmussen Reports poll, and to view their work with extreme skepticism going forward," Silver concluded.

Rasmussen, fending off years of criticisms of harboring a Republican-leaning bias, is taken very seriously by the mainstream press. Its founder and president, Scott Rasmussen, has openly supported conservative causes and is a former writer for the conspiracy-minded website World Net Daily.

Scott Rasmussen has said that if you poll randomly that you get to many "non voters" in the poll, meaning left leaning people.

Rasmussen is biased, plain and simple.
Meh, well that's just one tinfoilhatters opinion.
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Old 06-27-2011, 11:17 AM
 
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Yeah, I can show you quotes from Rasmussen themselves saying that their polling methods aren't the same as everyone elses, and show bias on several of their polls.

Can you disprove what even they say?

NYT calls out Rasmussen for conservative bias in Wisconsin poll | The Raw Story

"Because of the problems with question design, my advice would be simply to disregard the Rasmussen Reports poll, and to view their work with extreme skepticism going forward," Silver concluded.

Rasmussen, fending off years of criticisms of harboring a Republican-leaning bias, is taken very seriously by the mainstream press. Its founder and president, Scott Rasmussen, has openly supported conservative causes and is a former writer for the conspiracy-minded website World Net Daily.

Scott Rasmussen has said that if you poll randomly that you get to many "non voters" in the poll, meaning left leaning people.

Rasmussen is biased, plain and simple.
I really appreciate you doing your research. Please do the same with the rest of the polling companies so we can see for ourselves who is biased and who is not.
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