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Old 06-30-2011, 08:50 AM
 
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The article suggests "Fairfax County should sell subsidized housing units located in affluent neighborhoods and stop paying the condo fees."

It should read:

The article suggests "Fairfax County shouldn't sell subsidized housing units located in affluent neighborhoods and stop paying the condo fees."

I made a typo in the original post. Sorry.
I'm wondering if they somehow own them? Selling them implies ownership.
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Old 06-30-2011, 08:50 AM
 
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"Fairfax County’s affordable housing program provides housing opportunities to our neediest citizens: the disabled, the elderly and the poor. It also provides housing opportunities for lower income middle class working families. By partnering with the private sector and area non-profits, we have been able to leverage County resources to provide people who live and work in Fairfax County an affordable home.

A critical strategy for providing affordable housing alternatives to residents is that these homes are integrated into the community and dispersed across Fairfax County. Doing so prevents the creation of pockets of poverty. The concentration of poverty can perpetuate the causes of poverty, lead to higher crime rates and create unattractive, blighted and unsafe areas in Fairfax County.

Being the most desirable place to live in the region means the high cost of housing can prevent people who work here from also living here. Our affordable housing program helps us meet our goal of having homes available in Fairfax County for our working families, which helps us meet our economic development goals without adding to our transportation problems.

In several of the private communities where Fairfax County owns affordable units, we pay a monthly fee just as other tenants in those communities do. These fees go toward basic services such as maintenance, snow removal, and utilities. They also go to shared amenities. For example, 15 of the 41 condominium developments in which Fairfax County owns affordable units have swimming pools for their tenants.

Fairfax County cannot and will not ask private companies to treat tenants differently based on income. If a child in an affordable unit wants to use the swimming pool with his neighbors, he should be allowed to. We also will not ask private companies to waive such fees and interfere with their ability to be successful. Fairfax County will also not tell these private companies which amenities they can provide in an open, competitive market. These companies are very valuable partners in our housing program and we respect their right to choose which services and amenities they provide their customers and to charge appropriately for those services.

Recent criticism of these fees raises several questions. Should we concentrate our affordable housing with low income individuals and families all together, or integrate them seamlessly into the community as we have done successfully for years? Should we interfere with the free market and tell Fairfax County companies how they should run their businesses, or offer incentives to developers to help us meet our (and their) community’s housing goals?"

Sharon S. Bulova, the Democratic chairman of the Fairfax County Board of Supervisors
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Old 06-30-2011, 08:54 AM
 
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Fairfax County’s affordable housing program provides housing opportunities to our neediest citizens
Affordable to who though? And if they can't afford it without subsidization and have to move back to poorer areas you still haven't addressed the underlying problem. The only thing your doing is creating a situation where they will want to stay on section 8.
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Old 06-30-2011, 09:15 AM
 
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I'm wondering if they somehow own them? Selling them implies ownership.
"Developers who want to build high-density condos and townhomes in Fairfax County are required to sell some of their units at reduced prices to the county, who in turn, rents these units for as little as $300 a month to low-income families, the elderly and the disabled."
Read more: FOX 5 Investigates: Luxury Affordables (http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/special_report/fox-5-investigates-luxury-affordables-062711#ixzz1QlxZuYXs - broken link)

It happens that these housing developments have amenities that all residents may use.
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Old 06-30-2011, 09:35 AM
 
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"required to sell some of their units at reduced prices to the county"........

What a surprise that wasn't mentioned in the the quote Ovcatto posted about how they are trying to work with private industry.

Not only is the taxpayer taking it on the chin but this will also increase the cost of the housing for those purchasing the units.
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Old 06-30-2011, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Morrisville
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This is absurd. As a taxpayer I would be furious
So which are you. Not a tax payer or not furious?
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Old 06-30-2011, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Imagine a system for helping the poor that does not segregate them from the rest of us. That will really annoy the appearance driven money snobs. Great idea.
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Old 06-30-2011, 10:18 AM
 
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What a surprise that wasn't mentioned in the the quote Ovcatto posted about how they are trying to work with private industry.

Not only is the taxpayer taking it on the chin but this will also increase the cost of the housing for those purchasing the units.
The developer can only charge what the market will bear.
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Old 06-30-2011, 10:19 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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So which are you. Not a tax payer or not furious?
A taxpayer outside the NoVa area, I suspect...
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Old 06-30-2011, 10:37 AM
 
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Imagine a system for helping the poor that does not segregate them from the rest of us. That will really annoy the appearance driven money snobs. Great idea.
I just don't get it. Do you not realize where your philosophy will lead us in the long run?
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