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View Poll Results: What word best describes his presidency?
Good 127 38.14%
Ok 67 20.12%
Horrible 130 39.04%
I'm young and unfamiliar 9 2.70%
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Old 01-31-2012, 05:05 AM
 
Location: Twin Cities, MN
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You might want to revisit a dictionary and brush up on the definitions of "Liberal" and "Conservative" because you seem confused
I think you are the one who is confused.

In the Bush 2 era, liberals in the US were considered conservative in Europe.

Still are.

The US didn't invent the terms. Just an FYI.
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Old 01-31-2012, 05:46 AM
 
Location: North America
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what do you say?

He was great a making speeches. The things that do not qualify him as a great President are:
  • Iran Contra (trading weapons with the enemy is treason)
  • Neglecting AIDs into a pandemic.
  • Bringing the national debt into the trillions for the first time'
  • Trickle Down Economics (what a freaking joke)
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Old 01-31-2012, 07:18 AM
 
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I think you are the one who is confused.

In the Bush 2 era, liberals in the US were considered conservative in Europe.

Still are.

The US didn't invent the terms. Just an FYI.
No, you are confused... who gives a **** what liberals in the US are considered to be in other countries. It has no bearing to the US.

You didn't answer my question, you just deflected .... see below

How would Regean be considered a Liberal by todays rightwing.... especially since he is considered a HERO by todays rightwing
Kind of conterintuitive to normal people but perfectly rational to idiot lefties of today like Otto there
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Old 01-31-2012, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Houston
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No, you are confused... who gives a **** what liberals in the US are considered to be in other countries. It has no bearing to the US.

You didn't answer my question, you just deflected .... see below

How would Regean be considered a Liberal by todays rightwing.... especially since he is considered a HERO by todays rightwing
Kind of conterintuitive to normal people but perfectly rational to idiot lefties of today like Otto there
I think what it is is that Reagan was willing to compromise which politicians on both sides of the aisle do little of these days.
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Old 01-31-2012, 07:28 AM
 
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I think what it is is that Reagan was willing to compromise which politicians on both sides of the aisle do little of these days.
Compromise is not a platform for either party... I think people are misunderstanding my question I posed to "Otto".

What Reagan policies make him a Liberal compared to todays GOP like he said Reagan would be considered to be these days by the GOP?
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Old 01-31-2012, 07:29 AM
 
Location: CHicago, United States
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On balance, I think he was OK. He huffed and puffed on foreign policy. Some good came of it. Much bad, as well. But his legacy should be that he bankrupted the nation. He also believed in big government, and government intervention into our private lives. I'm being generous when I rate him as "OK."
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Old 01-31-2012, 07:41 AM
 
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No, his policies utterly stupid and stripped and destroyed everything this country worked for. He gave us a good juice of economic benefit that was utterly horrible in the long run.
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Old 01-31-2012, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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That would be 16,753,000 jobs or 174,510 jobs a month.
Job creation defines how great a president is???? I guess the 10,000,000 jobs Carter "created" in 4 years makes him greater than reagun. Apparently, reagun barely kept pace with the job creation rate Carter had during his dismal presidency.

I thought presidents don't create jobs.

I guess if you start at a low point, bringing things back to normal looks good. When Ronald reagun took office on January 20, 1981, the country was experiencing some of bleakest economic times since the Great Depression. Taxes were high, unemployment was high, interest rates were high and the national spirit was low.
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You probably don't even understand that.

That's 1.389 million people less in the unemployment line.

With 22 million new citizens from the 1980 census to the 1990 census that's pretty impressive.

That's classic. Now you don't believe in "priming the pump."



Table H-1. Income Limits for Each Fifth and Top 5 Percent
All Races

Share of total income is meaningless. In your argument you'd rather the country suffer so that things were more equal. There is no truth at all in the pie scenario liberals love to always go to. If money were finite that might mean something.
Another complete lie. FDR held the record taking it from 50% of GDP to 120% of GDP.

That wasn't even a good attempt at propaganda.
.

Nice try. Since that 120% caused by WWII both parties were working off the debt, until reagun's "debts don't matter" voodoo policies...

http://zfacts.com/sites/all/files/image/debt/US-national-debt-GDP.gif (broken link)
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Old 01-31-2012, 03:31 PM
 
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Reagan ran huge deficts when he cut taxes without also cutting spending, yes the economy grew.
Okay, but by that logic Obama should be crowned King of Economics at this point with the greatest growth in the economy since economies began...

You know the difference if you understand how economies and people work. Economic Malaise™ and class warfare only work to elect dictators.
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Old 01-31-2012, 03:32 PM
 
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First Michael Boskin, now John Taylor: there seems be an epidemic of politically conservative economists who used to be technically competent repeating the obviously wrong falsehood that Reagan ushered in an era of “unprecedented” growth.

No matter what measure you use, it just ain’t so — and I thought every macroeconomist in America knew it wasn’t so. Here’s one measure that the BLS happens to have put in a convenient chart, so that I’m not choosing the dates, they are:


The Corrosion of the Conservative Economic Mind - NYTimes.com
Well this should be interesting. match your little chart with this little chart.

http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/a...figure_004.jpg

That's not going to work out very well your you class warfare folks.
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