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Old 07-10-2011, 10:57 AM
 
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Wont be over until government starts to look at corporate america as a solution to the problem, not the cause.
Why would looking to corporation make things better? wouldn't that just solidify the bond between big business and big government?
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Old 07-10-2011, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Why would looking to corporation make things better? wouldn't that just solidify the bond between big business and big government?
Um...let's see. Corporations and small business create.......jobs.
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Old 07-10-2011, 01:06 PM
 
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Um...let's see. Corporations and small business create.......jobs.
Actually small bus does a better job. Big corps (not anyone who incorps) seems to want to create jobs overseas.
Many, many companies are jumping on the bandwagon to "compete".

However, Since the "corp" model is all about cheap labor and maximizing profit. No surprise there. The govt I would assume also like the jobs overseas for the same reason. That way their investment values go up for their funds.

Just saw a little vid about outsourcing saying since 79 over 17 million jobs had gone and the industrial base w/ it.

They outsource foodstamps and all kinda stuff to contractors also.

Pentagon Outsourcing is a Major Problem | Economy In Crisis

Sorry the govt certainly doesn't act like they care about anyone, but themselves. It's bipartisan too. I am amazed people keep playing that Rep vs Dem game. However, I realize there is alot of money to convince people that is where the problem lies.
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Old 07-10-2011, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Um...let's see. Corporations and small business create.......jobs.
Corporations ARE creating jobs but not in the US.

Our hope is left to small business.
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Old 07-10-2011, 03:14 PM
 
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Corporations ARE creating jobs but not in the US.

Our hope is left to small business.
Corporations are not making jobs period.

Take a look at GE:

General Electric Co.’s global workforce declined 5.6 percent to 287,000 employees last year as the company shed some overseas businesses at its GE Capital division.
The number of U.S. employees dropped less than 1 percent to 133,000, according to the Fairfield, Connecticut-based company’s annual regulatory filing with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission.
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Old 07-11-2011, 03:27 AM
 
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That's not what the Republikaaners told us. Where are the jobs?
At this point we need to have the government hiring people to work on infrastructure rather than pay them to stay home
There was 2 different tax cuts.. 1 to bring us out of the recession, the 2nd, to create jobs, both of them were successful at their goals.
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Old 07-11-2011, 05:58 AM
 
Location: Orlando
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So Obama spends money to stimulate the economy and he gets slammed. He inherits a hideous mess and he gets slammed as if he caused it but when he has taken steps to help he gets repeated attacks... just take a look in CD.... "each job costs 278,000" and so on...

SO you don't want him to spend money.... What would you propose he do?

Cutting taxes didn't make any jobs.

So tell me what it is anyone can do where money isn't spent? Businesses are not investing in the economy.
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Old 07-11-2011, 06:38 AM
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So Obama spends money to stimulate the economy and he gets slammed. He inherits a hideous mess and he gets slammed as if he caused it but when he has taken steps to help he gets repeated attacks... just take a look in CD.... "each job costs 278,000" and so on...

SO you don't want him to spend money.... What would you propose he do?

Cutting taxes didn't make any jobs.

So tell me what it is anyone can do where money isn't spent? Businesses are not investing in the economy.
Tell me about it! Just because the stimulus $trillion didn't work the first time, those crazy repubs think it wouldn't work the second time either. OK, so maybe it even takes 4 or 5 times, but sooner or later it's bound to work - only an insane person would think that something would never work even if you tried it over and over enough times!
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Old 07-11-2011, 12:48 PM
 
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Tell me about it! Just because the stimulus $trillion didn't work the first time, those crazy repubs think it wouldn't work the second time either. OK, so maybe it even takes 4 or 5 times, but sooner or later it's bound to work - only an insane person would think that something would never work even if you tried it over and over enough times!
You know what's worked in the past? Wars... that's it.

Don't believe me? Go to the Miller Center from the University of Virgina and click on the link at the top with each president name. Click on William McKinley and then click (on the right hand side) American President: William McKinley: Foreign Affairs

Then go to the next and the next and the next. You'll start to get the picture when you get to Eisenhower.

No, a stimulus isn't going to work. The only thing that will work is to chalk up some more on this list:

Instances of Use of United States Armed Forces Abroad, 1798 - 2004

Well there is one other thing that will work. Every American will have to take a 75% pay cut right now.
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Old 07-11-2011, 12:53 PM
 
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Um...let's see. Corporations and small business create.......jobs.
Small business, I agree. On corporations, I disagree. Corporations do create jobs, but they are mostly overseas so that is of no benefit to us.
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