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Old 07-09-2011, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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he can in fact do something that has the force of the courts. he can use his executive power. when was the last time the scotus ruled any executive order unconstitutional?
That would be the oil moratorium Obama tried to impose on off-shore drilling in the Gulf of Mexico. Several courts, in fact, ruled it unconstitutional. Executive Orders apply only to the Executive Branch. They have no force of law outside of the federal government.
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Old 07-09-2011, 03:00 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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That would be the oil moratorium Obama tried to impose on off-shore drilling in the Gulf of Mexico. Several courts, in fact, ruled it unconstitutional. Executive Orders apply only to the Executive Branch. They have no force of law outside of the federal government.

guess what, if that were true, then all the EO's passed by all the current and former presidents that exist that do effect citizens that are not federal employees would not be able to be enforced. when in fact they do.

there are currently 1000's of EO's that do effect the citizens of the USA that are not federal employees, and they have the force of law.
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Old 07-09-2011, 04:07 PM
 
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You missed the point of my post. Obama cannot use regulatory agencies to bypass the legislative process because every regulation must be based upon existing law. He cannot manufacture regulations out of thin air. They would have no legal validity and therefore no force of law. The courts would toss the bogus regulation out the instant it was applied.

With regard to the UN, nothing can be implemented without "the advice and consent of the Senate", and no treaty or UN Covenant that violates the US Constitution can be given consent. So it really does not matter what the UN agenda may or may not be.

Thankfully, we have checks in place to prevent a tyrannical dictatorship.


Oh that it would work the way it is meant to be instead of things as they are really done.

Courts put their stamp on bad moves by the Executive & Legislative Branches all too often.
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