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Old 07-09-2011, 04:13 AM
 
Location: My little patch of Earth
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Holy Crap. This is damning to Barack Obama. Damning, I say.

I defy any liberal anywhere to condemn or defend this.

(Of course, we know those cowards won't show up. They never do.)
Kinda explains his method of governing doesn't it?
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Old 07-09-2011, 05:09 AM
 
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Kinda explains his method of governing doesn't it?
Absolutely. Barack Obama deserves to have to answer to this. It's time for an independent commission, complete with testimony from the President Iran-Contra style.
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Old 07-09-2011, 07:02 AM
 
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Absolutely. Barack Obama deserves to have to answer to this. It's time for an independent commission, complete with testimony from the President Iran-Contra style.
I agree!

But let's not hold our breath.

Remember this president is above the Constitution.
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Old 07-09-2011, 07:45 AM
 
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Still no Liberals. Unbelievable. (Not Really)
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Old 07-09-2011, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Washington state
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That same ATF program that got US citizens killed. Signed and sealed by the great orator. But according to him he knows nothing about it.

"For an additional amount for ‘State and Local Law Enforcement Assistance’, $40,000,000, for competitive grants to provide assistance and equipment to local law enforcement along the Southern border and in High-Intensity Drug Trafficking Areas to combat criminal narcotics activity stemming from the Southern border, of which $10,000,000 shall be transferred to ‘Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, Salaries and Expenses’ for the ATF Project Gunrunner."

Text of H.R.1 as Enrolled Bill: American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 - U.S. Congress - OpenCongress
Thats all fine and dandy, but Project Gunrunner, which I agree is outragous, was started well before Obama took office..

ATF Online - Firearms - Programs - Project Gunrunner (http://www.atf.gov/firearms/programs/project-gunrunner/ - broken link)

ATF Fact Sheet - Project Gunrunner
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Old 07-09-2011, 08:00 AM
 
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Thats all fine and dandy, but Project Gunrunner, which I agree is outragous, was started well before Obama took office..

ATF Online - Firearms - Programs - Project Gunrunner (http://www.atf.gov/firearms/programs/project-gunrunner/ - broken link)

ATF Fact Sheet - Project Gunrunner
Under which President did one our project guns kill one of our own citizens?

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Old 07-09-2011, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Washington state
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Under which President did one our project guns kill one of our own citizens?

All I know is that Gunrunner has been around since 2006. You do remember whom the president was back then...don't you?

So all the calls for Obama to be investigated and the claims of this being his Iran Contra are being made by mindless partisans who are uninformed on the issue..
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Old 07-09-2011, 08:13 AM
 
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All I know is that Gunrunner has been around since 2006. You do remember whom the president was back then...don't you?

So all the calls for Obama to be investigated and the claims of this being his Iran Contra are being made by mindless partisans who are uninformed on the issue..
Nope. All we want is for him to come clean and tell us what he knows, and what he authorized. And should he need to be held accountable for something fishy, so be it. Something akin to the "transparency" that he promised. Do you remember that promise?
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Old 07-09-2011, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Washington state
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Nope. All we want is for him to come clean and tell us what he knows, and what he authorized. And should he need to be held accountable for something fishy, so be it. Something akin to the "transparency" that he promised. Do you remember that promise?
Yeah, so Obama isn't living up to his promises. I get it...he's been a disappointment.

However, blaming Project Gunrunner on him is misdirected..

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Gun trafficking to Mexico is a nationwide problem with consequences on both sides of the border. In response, ATF implemented Project Gunrunner in 2006 as a comprehensive strategy to reduce firearms and explosives related violent crime associated with Mexican criminal organizations operating in the U.S. and Mexico by preventing these organizations from unlawfully acquiring and trafficking firearms and explosives.
ATF Online - Firearms - Programs - Project Gunrunner (http://www.atf.gov/firearms/programs/project-gunrunner/ - broken link)
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Old 07-09-2011, 08:26 AM
 
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The Stimulus further funded it and Obama's Administration changed the rules and stopped arresting straw purchasers.
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