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Old 07-08-2011, 09:17 PM
 
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You and your friends are not typical Illinois or Midwestern voters.

Obama could find the cure for cancer, lower unemployment to 3%, solve the debt, abolish abortion, demand that every grocery store sell guns and wear a cowboy hat 24/7 and you will still hate him with every bone in your body.
By the same token, Obama could rack up the abysmal record of failure after failure that he's racked up since being elected, and you'd still shill for him with every bone in your body.
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Old 07-08-2011, 09:18 PM
 
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P.S. I'm from Wisconsin. I know from experience that people who live in Illinois are retarded.
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Old 07-08-2011, 09:24 PM
 
Location: North Idaho
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There are a lot of sheep living in the mid-west.
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Old 07-08-2011, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Imaginary Figment
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Shhhh..This wont get much play. Conservatives are too busy applauding the .1% raise in the unemployment rate to realize they're slowly losing their base. People know why the economy is struggling, were tricked into voting in a GOP congress that has done absolutely NOTHING and don't want to lose entitlements they paid into while the rich keep there unwarranted tax break.
They'll also be talking about Reverend Wright again before we know, since that worked so well for them last time.
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Old 07-08-2011, 09:34 PM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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There are a lot of sheep living in the mid-west.
I disagree. Midwestern voters aren't beholden to ideology like they are on the coasts (far left) and in the South. (far right with a Christian bent) We look at a situation or a candidate and judge them/it based on their merits and how they act. I think it's a more pragmatic and sensible way to go about things.

For instance, politically, I'm "Centre Left" But that doesn't mean I'm far left or hyper-partisan. I'm pragmatic, and I'm open to voting for Republicans (at the local level) if I think it's best for my town/county/ state.

IMO, the midwest's constant switching in recent years tells me that both parties are too extreme and beholden to their fringe base and therefore totally screwed up--not that their sheep.

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Old 07-09-2011, 01:51 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/p...A_07081205.pdf

Meanwhile Romney (unfortunately) and Obama are tied in Pennsylvania. Poll done by PPP. In other words, Romney is ahead of Obama in Pennsylvania and that is very bad news for Democrats since PA is a whopping 20 electoral votes. And if PA goes to the GOP, you can bet Ohio will follow since they are a more conservative version of PA, essentially
Right until Obama annihilated McCain, PA was a tossup state with some "polls" showing that McCain would take the state. Of course, reality set in pretty quickly on election night.

There are not enough rural GOP people in middle PA to offset the more enlightened ends of that state. Pennsylvania is a SOLID BLUE state. If Romney is still around, he too will be annihilated.
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Old 07-09-2011, 06:31 AM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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Right until Obama annihilated McCain, PA was a tossup state with some "polls" showing that McCain would take the state. Of course, reality set in pretty quickly on election night.

There are not enough rural GOP people in middle PA to offset the more enlightened ends of that state. Pennsylvania is a SOLID BLUE state. If Romney is still around, he too will be annihilated.
Not enough rural GOP people in PA? More like, there's too many beneficiaries of the welfare state in PA. You know, the takers outnumber the donors. Liberals won't be happy until we are all 100% dependent on government handouts.
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Old 07-09-2011, 10:10 AM
 
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Not enough rural GOP people in PA? More like, there's too many beneficiaries of the welfare state in PA. You know, the takers outnumber the donors. Liberals won't be happy until we are all 100% dependent on government handouts.
I know PA, I live here. The only reason why Democrats have an edge in this state is because of welfare scroungers in Philly and the hippy bong-pipe college vote in the suburbs. the only hope is out west, which is more GOP than the southeast. This is the same region where Obama trashed on the locals saying that Pennsylvanians are people who are scared that cling to guns and religion. PA is far from solid Dem. The GA and Governorship have been shifting between Dem and GOP for a long time now and GOP make up the whole trifecta in the state right now

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I disagree. Midwestern voters aren't beholden to ideology like they are on the coasts (far left) and in the South. (far right with a Christian bent) We look at a situation or a candidate and judge them/it based on their merits and how they act. I think it's a more pragmatic and sensible way to go about things.

For instance, politically, I'm "Centre Left" But that doesn't mean I'm far left or hyper-partisan. I'm pragmatic, and I'm open to voting for Republicans (at the local level) if I think it's best for my town/county/ state.

IMO, the midwest's constant switching in recent years tells me that both parties are too extreme and beholden to their fringe base and therefore totally screwed up--not that their sheep.
"Centre"?
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Old 07-09-2011, 11:08 AM
 
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Sebelius is a student of brzezinski, just like obamy....globalists ....
Beck is gone but the minions are still here.
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Old 07-09-2011, 11:12 AM
 
Location: 15 months till retirement and I can leave the hell hole of New Yakistan
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Beck is gone but the minions are still here.
never was beck....I never knew who beck was until about a year ago


this is a post of mine from 2008

this was from 2008

and its still true...obamy is the bilderberger candidate


Obama’s top adviser is Zbigniew Brzezinski. Brzezinski gave an interview to the French press a number of years ago where he boasted about the fact that it was he who created the whole Afghan jihadi movement, the movement that produced Osama bin Laden. (BILDERBERG)



Another key Obama adviser, Anthony Lake, he was the main force behind the US invasion of Haiti in the mid-Clinton years during which they brought back Aristide essentially in political chains, pledged to support a World Bank/IMF overhaul of the economy, which resulted in an increase in malnutrition deaths among Haitians and set the stage for the current ongoing political disaster in Haiti. (BILDERBERG)



Another key Obama adviser, Dennis Ross. Ross, for many years under both Clinton and Bush 2, a key--he has advised Clinton and both Bushes. He oversaw US policy toward Israel/Palestine. (BILDERBERG)



Another Obama adviser, Sarah Sewall, who heads a human rights center at Harvard and is a former Defense official, she wrote the introduction to General Petraeus’s Marine Corps/Army counterinsurgency handbook, the handbook that is now being used worldwide by US troops in various killing operations. That’s the Obama team. (BILDERBERG)



as YOU CAN SEE,, he is BACKED by bilderberg



Bilderberg has been trying since 1992 to “establish a UN tax” which would be used to finance their globalist-oriented programs. Of course, the brunt of this tax would fall on American workers, and it appears this is being spearheaded by Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.
On Feb. 14, 2008, an Obama-sponsored bill called the “Global Poverty Act” (S 2433) was referred to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee after passing the House. What this bill would do, in effect, is levy a global tax on the United States where an additional 0.7% of the gross national product would be earmarked to foreign aid (on top of what we already give).

Assisting Obama in his endeavors are two longtime Council on Foreign Relations members: the man who has been called Obama’s mentor, Sen. Joseph Biden (D-Del.). Both have attended secret Bilderberg meetings and have been influential in trying to ratify the UN’s Law of the Sea Treaty.



John D. Rockefeller 4th (BILDERBERG) has ENDORSED Obama

John Corzine D- NJ Governor (BILDERBERG) has endorsed Obama

Kathleen Sebelius D- Ks Govenor, (BILDERBERG) has endorsed obama

Janet Napolitano D- Wa Governor (Bilderberg) has endorsed Obama,,,btw she like the others is PRO anmesty, and PRO NAU,,,all NEW WORLD ORDER



The Trilateral Commission which OBAMA is a member. It was founded in July 1973, by David Rockefeller (BILDERBERG, CFR), along with Zbrigniew Brzezinski (BILDERBERG)



North American Union (NAU),,relevant to this process is the publication of NORTH AMERICAN INTEGRATION MONITOR since 2002 by the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS). Zbigniew Brzezinski has been a CSIS counselor, and at Mikhail Gorbachev's first State of the World Forum in 1995, Brzezinski revealed: "We cannot leap into world government through one quick step....The precondition for eventual and genuine globalization is progressive regionalization because by that we move toward larger, more stable, more cooperative units."

You may recall that in Brzezinski's BETWEEN TWO AGES (1970), he praised Marxism, and he claimed that "the nation-state is gradually yielding its sovereignty."



obama is pro amnesty

obama is CFR

obama is TLC

obama is pro NAU

obama is PRO NWO

obama is open trade,,more jobs we will lose

obama has already shown a plan to INCREASE (the budget/debt) spending by 1-3 trillion ,at taxpay expense



sorry but obama is not the candidate for change, he is not hope, he is bush-HEAVY, a globalist in socialist clothing, he will sell us further to china and the un




seems I was correct in june of 08

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