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Old 07-12-2011, 10:04 AM
 
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Somebody run this by the central planners and see what they think.
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Old 07-12-2011, 10:07 AM
 
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I wish I had the time to go through all the blatant distortions contained in the article. For just one example, in 2008 when oil prices began to rise to a point that made much off continental shelf (OCS) drilling profitable oil companies struggled to hire enough employees to work their rigs, frankly, I don't believe nor have I seen an evidence that there are 190,000 workers with the skills to work on an offshore rig. Further the idea that increased drilling can reduce U.S. dependence of foreign oil by 92% is risible at best.
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Old 07-12-2011, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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another field that would help create jobs is the expansion of our off shore fishing industry. Too bad that is being fought by our good conservationist friends as well.

Nita
I'm sure the fishermen in the gulf coast love those oil wells, and now more than ever.
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Old 07-12-2011, 10:08 AM
 
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Why create actual drilling jobs, when we can create make believe "green" jobs.

Those green jobs are awesome because you basically file a claim with the government saying that you are turning pig manure into fuel and the government pays you! Awesome!
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Old 07-12-2011, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I wish I had the time to go through all the blatant distortions contained in the article. For just one example, in 2008 when oil prices began to rise to a point that made much off continental shelf (OCS) drilling profitable oil companies struggled to hire enough employees to work their rigs, frankly, I don't believe nor have I seen an evidence that there are 190,000 workers with the skills to work on an offshore rig. Further the idea that increased drilling can reduce U.S. dependence of foreign oil by 92% is risible at best.
To quote the conservative Cato Institute on that issue...

"OPEC market power, [Bush] contends, can only be combated by energy independence secured by increased domestic production. It's one of the central premises of what passes for Republican energy policy. And it is beyond nonsense. To paraphrase Jeremy Bentham, it's nonsense on stilts."

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Somebody run this by the central planners and see what they think.
I'm sure it has been run dozens of times before Obama took office.
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Old 07-12-2011, 10:10 AM
 
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Why create actual drilling jobs, when we can create make believe "green" jobs.

Those green jobs are awesome because you basically file a claim with the government saying that you are turning pig manure into fuel and the government pays you! Awesome!
well hey, if it looks good on paper...
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Old 07-12-2011, 10:12 AM
 
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To quote the conservative Cato Institute on that issue...

"OPEC market power, [Bush] contends, can only be combated by energy independence secured by increased domestic production. It's one of the central premises of what passes for Republican energy policy. And it is beyond nonsense. To paraphrase Jeremy Bentham, it's nonsense on stilts."


I'm sure it has been run dozens of times before Obama took office.
Why is it nonsense?

If we switch to CNG cars, drill in ANWR and deeper in the gulf, then also drill in low perm oil-shales and gas-shales, we can easily be energy independent.
Use clean coal technologies and nuclear power as well.

We have the capabilities as a country, we just need to get on the right track.
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Old 07-12-2011, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Martinsville, NJ
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This is a better idea and will revitalize a technological revolution with countless jobs instead of more environmental destruction and a dead-end.

Cutting the Cord: The World of Wireless Electricity « WellHome
You're referencing electricity transmission. Oil drilling addresses the supply of fuel to generate electricity. You can't transmit electricity that doesn't exist, and you can't generate electricity without fuel.
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Old 07-12-2011, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Why is it nonsense?
Why is it not? But those aren't my words (take note, when you read the article linked).

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If we switch to CNG cars, drill in ANWR and deeper in the gulf, then also drill in low perm oil-shales and gas-shales, we can easily be energy independent. Use clean coal technologies and nuclear power as well.

We have the capabilities as a country, we just need to get on the right track.
Great... I didn't realize choices in life was THAT easy.
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Old 07-12-2011, 10:18 AM
 
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You're referencing electricity transmission. Oil drilling addresses the supply of fuel to generate electricity. You can't transmit electricity that doesn't exist, and you can't generate electricity without fuel.
I believe she's talking about job creation, not electricity creation (and as luck would have it, the Japanese are working on wireless electricity creation which is likely to help with jobs as well... using solar power).
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