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Old 07-15-2011, 01:45 PM
 
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There is no reason to raise taxes ever. Taxes are already way too high.

We just need to cut our bloated government spending.
You didn't address the OP at all.
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Old 07-15-2011, 01:51 PM
 
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There is no reason to raise taxes ever. Taxes are already way too high.

We just need to cut our bloated government spending.
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Old 07-15-2011, 01:51 PM
 
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$2 trillion over ten years initially, that is $200 billion per year in spending cuts. that is easily doable by eliminating the excessive government spending on a huge number of programs like frisbee golf courses, and putting shrimp on a treadmill, among others. these are insignificant cuts, but they are a start.

we do need to cut the size of government, but to prevent a major depression, we need to cut gradually, not all at once. will it hurt the economy? for a bit, but if we have a pro growth environment in this country, it wont hurt for long.
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Old 07-15-2011, 01:53 PM
 
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Why is obamacare off the table?
Why are you trying to change the subject?
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Old 07-15-2011, 01:55 PM
 
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Alright, so republicans are against raising taxes in a recession because it will hurt businesses ability to hire, thus hurting the economy.

Yet cutting $2 trillion+ is just fine in a recession? Cutting $2T in job cuts, wage cuts, pension cuts, etc in a recession is fine? Cutting demand is fine? Will cutting demand create jobs?

Can someone explain to me how this works?
Reagan did it... Clinton did it...
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Old 07-15-2011, 01:55 PM
 
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$2 trillion over ten years initially, that is $200 billion per year in spending cuts. that is easily doable by eliminating the excessive government spending on a huge number of programs like frisbee golf courses, and putting shrimp on a treadmill, among others. these are insignificant cuts, but they are a start.
Read the OP, again, and try to understand it.

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Reagan did it... Clinton did it...
Neither did it. And both scrambled to increase tax revenue, by either raising taxes or closing loop holes.
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Old 07-15-2011, 01:57 PM
 
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Yeah seriously I don't think anybody is reading the OP or don't understand what I am asking.
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Old 07-15-2011, 02:01 PM
 
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Why are you trying to change the subject?
I am not. I'm just saying that defunding obamacare wouldn't eliminate government jobs. Obama has said it's off the table. Why?
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Old 07-15-2011, 02:05 PM
 
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I am not. I'm just saying that defunding obamacare wouldn't eliminate government jobs. Obama has said it's off the table. Why?
What does Obamacare have to do with the deficit? Thats what the point of even bringing it up?
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Old 07-15-2011, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Alright, so republicans are against raising taxes in a recession because it will hurt businesses ability to hire, thus hurting the economy.

Yet cutting $2 trillion+ is just fine in a recession? Cutting $2T in job cuts, wage cuts, pension cuts, etc in a recession is fine? Cutting demand is fine? Will cutting demand create jobs?

Can someone explain to me how this works?
You're talking about what obama said in 2009, right?


‪Obama: "The LAST THING We Want to Do Is Raise Taxes During a Recession"‬‏ - YouTube

Can you explain to me why he wants to raise taxes now, after the deal to extend the Bush tax rates in Dec of 2010?
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