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Old 07-17-2011, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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What's worse is that they demoted a whistleblowing employee who exposed their tax dodging scheme.

The question is, why would they complain about higher taxes when they don't pay many of them in the first place????

"Daniel Schlicksup, who was a global tax strategy manager for the company from 2005 to 2008, alleges that the company wrongly attributed at least $5.6 billion in profits from sales through an Illinois-based warehouse to its unit in Switzerland in order to lessen its tax burden and increase earnings.

He claims Caterpillar reassigned him to another job after he complained about the practice."

Caterpillar manager accuses company of 'tax dodge' - BusinessWeek

https://home.chicagobusiness.com/cli...WS05/110329893
Wow, alleged now means fact in the mind of the left. Anybody can allege anything, of course that doesn't make it so.

It appears a if you don't care if Caterpiller leaves. So why the need to lie about them?
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Old 07-17-2011, 06:43 AM
 
Location: Here
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They won't leave. They have nowhere to go. Caterpillar is a highly technical company. If they move to another state, the other state won't have a workforce capable of performing their manufacturing, research, and design. Unless of course they go to another high tax state (CA, NY, NJ).

I doubt that people in Arkansas or Mississippi have the educational and technical background to work there.

Wow. Just. Wow. <facepalm>
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Old 07-17-2011, 06:50 AM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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They won't leave. They have nowhere to go. Caterpillar is a highly technical company. If they move to another state, the other state won't have a workforce capable of performing their manufacturing, research, and design. Unless of course they go to another high tax state (CA, NY, NJ).

I doubt that people in Arkansas or Mississippi have the educational and technical background to work there.
Nowhere to go? Have you looked at a map? They could relocate just over the Illinois border in Northwest Indiana or Southern Wisconsin and probably keep the majority of their current employees. Both states are actively courting Illinois businesses. Hell, the Chicago Board of Trade and the Chicago Mercantile Exchange are considering leaving Illinois too! Along with Motorolla, Jimmy John's, Sears, and 25% of all small businesses. Yay Illinois!!!
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Old 07-17-2011, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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They won't leave. They have nowhere to go. Caterpillar is a highly technical company. If they move to another state, the other state won't have a workforce capable of performing their manufacturing, research, and design. Unless of course they go to another high tax state (CA, NY, NJ).

I doubt that people in Arkansas or Mississippi have the educational and technical background to work there.
So you'd like to think. Boeing is just as technical as Caterpillar and they are moving operations to South Carolina.
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Old 07-17-2011, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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They avoided paying 2 billion in taxes. If you avoided paying that much in taxes, why would you complain about your tax rate going from 2% to 6%??

How dare you raise my taxes that I never pay!!!

Shame on you!!!!
Avoidance would imply criminal activity. If they are utilizing existing tax law to minimize their tax bill that is perfectly legal and in fact have a corporate duty to do so.
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Old 07-17-2011, 07:41 AM
 
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They won't leave. They have nowhere to go. Caterpillar is a highly technical company. If they move to another state, the other state won't have a workforce capable of performing their manufacturing, research, and design. Unless of course they go to another high tax state (CA, NY, NJ).

I doubt that people in Arkansas or Mississippi have the educational and technical background to work there.
Oh , that's funny . If they could put down their guns and Bibles for a minute the could get some learnin'.

The Republican Governors of Arizona , New Mexico and Nevada better run fast after that company because Chris Christie has probably already been there.
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Old 07-17-2011, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Tax cheats have no right to complain about taxes. End of story. You obviously disagree, and that is your right.

Whether they are federal or state doesn't matter. A tax cheat is a tax cheat.
Don't worry about her, she knows you're a Democrat so she automatically disagrees with you.
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Old 07-17-2011, 01:02 PM
 
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These guys hope "They have nowhere to go" then they think they can impose their insane taxation and get those evil companies. If that ever does happen they'll all leave the US completely. Is there any wonder why business is booming in other countries? Not to anyone with any common sense that's for sure.
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Old 07-17-2011, 01:04 PM
 
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Don't worry about her, she knows you're a Democrat so she automatically disagrees with you.
Except I'm not a Democrat.
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Old 07-17-2011, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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They won't leave. They have nowhere to go. Caterpillar is a highly technical company. If they move to another state, the other state won't have a workforce capable of performing their manufacturing, research, and design. Unless of course they go to another high tax state (CA, NY, NJ).

I doubt that people in Arkansas or Mississippi have the educational and technical background to work there.
They are halfway out the door. They have a new facility in Arkansas, by the way, and are already moving all their new work to "right to work" states, as well as desperately trying to get into China.

In fact, their first priority is to penetrate the Chinese market, manufacturing in China won't be far behind.

Believe me, this company can go anywhere in the world, because they are all over it.
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