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Originally Posted by speakingtruth
so youre saying because it doesn't happen to you, it doesn't happen? I'm trying to understand your point. It does seem to read that you are blaming the victim. Liberals use to preach against that, but here you are doing it. Please do explain.
It's disturbing how the mainstream media have practically declared war against a certain group of peaceful Americans. If they slandered Jews or Muslims in the same manner as they do Christians would that be acceptable? Why the double-standard?
I have friends who are Christian. They are fine people.
But, there has been a growing trend of taking Christianity to far extremes and it becomes more and more prevalent. These people are not normal, and they are trying to weave their extremly radical views into the fabric of America laws. They are trying to force all of us into their narrow, and erroneous world. They tea party is full of them.
Let me rephrase: What actual flesh & blood real victim? Just how were they victimized?
You will have to ask the OP of that particular comment, which was commented on here:
Originally Posted by Casper in Dallas Oh you poor poor persecuted baby
This Christian has Never been persecuted, maybe it is something you are doing to cause yours, clue, STOP IT.
Casper
As for victimization, you seem to post this definiton: "Flesh and blood real victim"? So, are you saying that unless one is a PHYSICAL victim, they are not a victim? Can we apply that to certain racial groups in America, and "Self esteem" issues? Can we apply that to PC America?
Answer carefully now, I think you just painted yourself into a box.
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Originally Posted by speakingtruth
You will have to ask the OP of that particular comment, which was commented on here:
Originally Posted by Casper in Dallas Oh you poor poor persecuted baby
This Christian has Never been persecuted, maybe it is something you are doing to cause yours, clue, STOP IT.
Casper
As for victimization, you seem to post this definiton: "Flesh and blood real victim"? So, are you saying that unless one is a PHYSICAL victim, they are not a victim? Can we apply that to certain racial groups in America, and "Self esteem" issues? Can we apply that to PC America?
Answer carefully now, I think you just painted yourself into a box.
I think you're delusional.
But yes, I believe a victim is a real entity, not imagined. I have no idea why you'd say I painted myself into a box. WHERE have I ever said a victim is anything but real?
It's disturbing how the mainstream media have practically declared war against a certain group of peaceful Americans. If they slandered Jews or Muslims in the same manner as they do Christians would that be acceptable? Why the double-standard?
I guess from the perspective of many liberals being religious, especially in an Abrahamic way, is outright stupid and ridiculous and thus provokes a certain reaction... That's why people love to make fun of the Amish etc. But at least everyone knows the Amish are keeping to themselves and don't try to force their crap on the whole country... So, the attitude is more relaxed, unlike with evangelists and similar zealots.
But yes, I believe a victim is a real entity, not imagined. I have no idea why you'd say I painted myself into a box. WHERE have I ever said a victim is anything but real?
Its not that you said a victim isnt real, but rather, the criteria used to define a victim. So, a victim is only a victim of bigotry if its a physical hurt? Say, an assault?
For that matter, if a Muslim hears an anti-Islamic remark, are they a victim? Are Blacks not victims of bigotry, in the form of say, housing discrimination?
Answer carefully, your cred is on the line. If you aren't consistent, then you've basically just contradicted your own argument.
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Originally Posted by speakingtruth
Its not that you said a victim isnt real, but rather, the criteria used to define a victim. So, a victim is only a victim of bigotry if its a physical hurt? Say, an assault?
For that matter, if a Muslim hears an anti-Islamic remark, are they a victim? Are Blacks not victims of bigotry, in the form of say, housing discrimination?Answer carefully, your cred is on the line. If you aren't consistent, then you've basically just contradicted your own argument.
I'll give you some time.
Uh, the examples YOU give are real! Do you actually have a point?
You could give me eons, your O-P-I-N-I-O-N of my credibility means nothing.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by speakingtruth
Its not that you said a victim isnt real, but rather, the criteria used to define a victim. So, a victim is only a victim of bigotry if its a physical hurt? Say, an assault?
For that matter, if a Muslim hears an anti-Islamic remark, are they a victim? Are Blacks not victims of bigotry, in the form of say, housing discrimination?
Answer carefully, your cred is on the line. If you aren't consistent, then you've basically just contradicted your own argument.
I'll give you some time.
Uh, the examples YOU give are real! Do you actually have a point?
You could give me eons, your O-P-I-N-I-O-N of my credibility means nothing.
YOU are the one who alleged the 'victims' of Christianphobia were obvious yet have yet to give an example. It's your credibility that's in serious doubt here.
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