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Originally Posted by dman72
Right because the healtcare bill is in full effect.
For the record the healthcare bill sucks, but not for the reasons that Rush Limbaugh fans think. It's a handover of money to Insurance companies who are one of the biggest problems with healthcare in this country in the first place.
Yep. The insurance companies would do to the government as the Colleges and Universities have done. Once they knew that the government was going to cover a bunch of the loans - they jacked up the prices. Universal healthcare is a great idea, but how to achieve that is an absolute nightmare.
Can't see how it could increase jobs, please elaborate !
It has nothing to do with creating jobs. The current GOP is a very single minded, monolithic entity, seemingly controlled by Grover Norquist at this juncture.
It's like a retarded parrot. Bush cut taxes, jobs were lost during his tenure. Trickle down is a buch of garbage, yet they keep selling this nonsense, and middle class boobs (apparently many on this board) keep buying it, hook, line, and sinker.
Ignore history if you want, but EVERY TIME they cut spending in Washingotn, JOBS got created. There were so many jobs created when they cut spending under Clinton, that the sharp increase in revenues, which coincided with a cut in spending on welfare etc, allowed Clinton to claim that we had a balanced budget..
Are you telling me now that this period in time didnt take place?
When did those cuts take place? During Clinton years, the good times helped slow down a growth in spending, there was not a single year when spending was cut to a lower level. In fact, in last 50 years, the only times spending has been cut (based on budgets), in 2005 dollars...
1963 (-2 Billion, 0.3% of the budget)
1969 (-33 Billion, 3.3% of the budget)
1987 (-28 Billion, 1.7% of the budget)
1993 (-12 Billion, 0.6% of the budget)
2010 (-105 Billion, 3.3% of the budget )
You might be thinking of the spending cuts that republicans demanded, and FDR succumbed to, in 1937. The balanced budget you speak of, was a result of slower growth in spending (but it was a growth nonetheless) at about 10% over the eight years, while tax revenue increased by 63%.
Get rid of the healthcare fiasco and watch job numbers rise on the very day it is thrown in the trash. Until then the only one hiring is uncle sam because he can pay folks with others money.
Over a year ago, Rick Perry visited a company and thanked it for increased hiring of Texans, for adding more jobs than any other company in the state as a percentage... did he know that the hiring was largely due to the Health Care Reform? Even if he did, he won't tell you.
It has nothing to do with creating jobs. The current GOP is a very single minded, monolithic entity, seemingly controlled by Grover Norquist at this juncture.
It's like a retarded parrot. Bush cut taxes, jobs were lost during his tenure. Trickle down is a buch of garbage, yet they keep selling this nonsense, and middle class boobs (apparently many on this board) keep buying it, hook, line, and sinker.
If trickle down doesn't work, then who creates the jobs?
If trickle down doesn't work, then who creates the jobs?
Demand creates jobs, however, in America, increased demand in the US has created jobs in China because American Corporations have sent all the jobs overseas.
Likewise, trickle down put money in the pockets of the very wealthy. In a closed system, the la la land where some people on this board live, a rich person puts their money in a mutual fund, that fund provides capital to companies that hire people, ie trickle down. Problem is, when that money is trickling down to China and not here, it becomes bad policy to continue going in that direction.
"I keep making rich people richer, but we keep having less and less jobs and the jobs we have pay less. But Larry Kudlow told me that this would work!!"
I don't believe that an increase of regulation is the cause - I think that these corporations can make more money by paying workers less while either keeping the prices of their products the same or even increasing them.
Manufacturers do not have to meet the tough EPA or OSHA requirements in the USA when they build plants and employ workers in places like Mexico, China, and India. The aforementioned most certainly plays into the equation every bit as much as lower wage costs. Even the cost of electricity to run those plants is less because they are burning coal for the power plants that the EPA here has deemed to dirty for use in the USA.
I'm anxiously awaiting to hear this.. this should be good
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Originally Posted by Bulldawg82
First, this would pertain only to those companies that are attempting to close shops in this country to move the jobs to another country.
if I close up shop her ein america, and move to another country, say India.. under what jurisdictional law can the US Government tell a company in India, that they cant establish a business?
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Originally Posted by Bulldawg82
It does not include your company having a contract with a foreign gov or to invest in a foreign business.
Even worse
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Originally Posted by Bulldawg82
Secondly, if the very foundations of our country is also the very death of our country - well, that thought process was pretty retarded. Thirdly, that thought process is what is quickly making us NOT the #1 nation in the world.
No, what is making us NOT the #1 nation in the world, is everyone thinking you have a right to dictate what rules, others have to follow, and you are pushing people to leave..
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