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Anybody can go here for the latest polling on the budget.
Americans overwhelming support taxing the wealthy to help pay balance the budget by a margin of 3 to 1.
The only reason the OP is dwelling on this one question is to twist the results around to try and show everyone thinks like a radical right wing fiscal conservative that only thinks about cuts to entitlements.
Balancing the budget is not about tax cuts, it about the congress spending a certain portion of our economy, the GDP, to run the government. The left brags about the Clinton balancing the budget and his budget surplus, and then screams bloody hell when we want to see a balanced budget now.
When we had a $7 trillion debt in 2007, the dems were furious, vowing not to raise the debt ceiling, now we are at $14.5 trillion in debt. It's clear that the congress, no matter which party runs it, cannot control spending, so we need a mechanism to control their spending.
SO change the tax code. Many of us have been screaming for a flat tax for 30 years now.
No matter how hard you scream, how long you scream, doesn't make it the right solution.
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Balancing the budget is not about tax cuts
Budgets include receipts (taxes) and outlays (spending). Can't "balance" without considering both.
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The left brags about the Clinton balancing the budget and his budget surplus, and then screams bloody hell when we want to see a balanced budget now.
Well, the right used the balanced budget in Clinton's last two years, as a driver to push for tax cuts in 2001. But here is a point the right wingers would either want to ignore or are clueless about. One big reason we saw the deficits shrink by the year during Clinton years was... spending grew every year but was more than made up for by a massive increase in tax revenue (spending grew by 10%, while tax revenue increased by 63%). You think you can balance the budget by just cutting spending? Perhaps you see the possibility that tax revenues can't be increased?
Balancing the budget is not about tax cuts, it about the congress spending a certain portion of our economy, the GDP, to run the government. The left brags about the Clinton balancing the budget and his budget surplus, and then screams bloody hell when we want to see a balanced budget now.
When we had a $7 trillion debt in 2007, the dems were furious, vowing not to raise the debt ceiling, now we are at $14.5 trillion in debt. It's clear that the congress, no matter which party runs it, cannot control spending, so we need a mechanism to control their spending.
It's clear you've totally blocked from your mind the fact that raising tax revenues can also balance the budget.
Yes, Americans answer polls. Whether the poll is an accurate measure of anything is in the eye of the beholder.
In THIS POLL 50% to 40% oppose raising the debt ceiling at all, even though the results would be catastrophic economically.
Then we have THIS POLL that shows that 63% to 30% voters don't like incumbents.
How about this POLL which shows that voters approve of Democrats instead of Republicans on running the economy?
...and 0bama and the left wing media cherry pick polls to justify their agenda, their liberal tax and spend policies, and ignore the polls that disagree.
CNN conducted this poll, and they will ignore the results that go against their agenda. Whatever polls seem to support their agenda will be headline news, and those that do not, like this poll that shows the majority want a balanced budget amendment, will be ignored.
The point is, if you are going to use polls to justify your actions, then don't decide polls no longer matter when they overwhelmingly disagree with your agenda or policies.
I do not need polls to justify my opinions, I'm only pointing out how CNN's own poll is being ignored by them, and when one agrees with them it will be 24/7 news, and held up as a mandate for the nation.
If 0bama wants to claim he is only raising taxes because some poll says so, then here is a poll that says we want a balanced budget amendment; which he claims he would veto.
You guys really need to up with something new. Why is that if anyone has an opinion different from yours you call them ignorant, stupid etc.?
What makes you think you are so much smarter and wiser than someone with a different view?
You guys need to grow up. insulting name calling belongs on the schoolyard.
I agree that name calling is probably inappropriate, but so is mislabeling people with code words such as "socialist" or "fascist". Clearly people are attempting to insinuate that the Obama administration is somehow trying to act oppressively, when if they would just crack open a book they'd see that their using those terms incorrectly. I'm not necessarily saying you are using those terms incorrectly, by the way, but I've certainly seen my fair share of it from those who oppose Obama. And when I see it, yeah, I think they're kinda silly.
I think this country is going into the toilet bowl because of something I've observed for a long time: people can't even agree on what a fact is anymore. It's one thing when people don't understand or don't have all the information -- that can be changed. But what can't be changed is when people filter out information that doesn't support their views. That's what's happening these days, and it's killing is. The result is, we have a multiparty government despite the fact we have a two-party system in name. We have extreme social democrats, who are actually a very, very small and poorly represented minority. We have tea party, completely unregulated market Republicans, a very small minority, but one with a much bigger bullhorn and stage than their liberal counterparts. Everyone else is in the middle, wanting some sort of compromise but not really sure what and not really sure whom to believe. Nobody can agree on what the facts are. Channeling my inner Lombardi, all I can say is, "Everybody is filtering out there. Filter. Filter. Filter."
We need to stop and agree that we all have the same interests; that it's in the interest of the super wealthy to part ways with some money not so that it can be just handed out to the poor, but so that it can invest in infrastructure that we all need and use, and so that we can help the middle class (those who really want to work and contribute) retool. At the same time, I would also agree that we need to do more to help the small businessman. Next to the middle class laborer, the small businessman is increasingly the one getting squeezed out of the American dream and bank into the cesspit of corporate America. We have to protect our working class, and our independent and entrepreneurial class. One of the most fundamental problems is that we are allowing politicians to tell us that their interests are distinct from each other. They're not. They rely on each other.
And see that if you modestly cut defense, and modestly raise taxes on the wealthy. Medicare and Social Security would not need to be touched.
Of course it can. If you lower taxes too much, you won't have enough revenue to run the government, so don't be ignorant.
We need a balanced budget so government does not spend more then they take in. We are running at about 24% of GDP, that's 24 cents out of every dollar earned that goes to the federal government. What about tax revenue for the state and local governments?
The left seems to think we no longer have state governments, that all matters of concern are solved by federal government, and all taxes go to the federal government.
The federal government cannot just keep growing until it swallows 30% or more of GDP, we need to put the breaks on. either that, or we become bankrupt like Greece or or a socialist nation like Cuba.
How do you propose to encourage a company or business owner to expand, invest or hire new employees, by raising their taxes and adding more burdensome and costly regulations?
We need to accomplish what Clinton did during his Presidency. It wasn't cutting spending, it was 20 million jobs.
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