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Old 07-23-2011, 01:34 PM
 
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I'm a Bill Maher fan, but he has to take the L on this one.


Reason's Nick Gillespie Exposes Maher Hypocrisy: Would You Give Up This Show to Reduce Your Carbon Footprint? | NewsBusters.org

http://www.mrctv.org/video/103933 (broken link)
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Old 07-23-2011, 06:02 PM
 
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You know, Gillespie irritated me during that whole show. He was rude, would not let Donna Brazile finish her thoughts, and was outright condescending to that Pennsylvania mayor. When that mayor stated that he was the mayor of the poorest city in Pennsylvania and Gillespie made that snide, snotty statement of "....bet you're proud of that" he should have kicked his butt right on the show.

As for reducing the carbon footprint thing, everyone was making reasonable statements and Gillespie had to take everything out to a ridiculous degree. He was childish, ego-centric, and an obnoxious boor and NOT because he was disagreeable. I usually like Bill's disagreeable guest but this guy was a jerk.
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Old 07-23-2011, 06:14 PM
 
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combating AGW requires collective action.

individual efforts are needed and noble, but the entire foundation of the economy has to change to make a difference.

Bill's a fine entertainer. I wouldn't miss him if he gave up the show. But these questions of anyone are the same as asking "Do you still beat your wife?" Either answer, yes or no, and you are screwed.
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Old 07-23-2011, 06:25 PM
 
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You know, Gillespie irritated me during that whole show. He was rude, would not let Donna Brazile finish her thoughts, and was outright condescending to that Pennsylvania mayor. When that mayor stated that he was the mayor of the poorest city in Pennsylvania and Gillespie made that snide, snotty statement of "....bet you're proud of that" he should have kicked his butt right on the show.

As for reducing the carbon footprint thing, everyone was making reasonable statements and Gillespie had to take everything out to a ridiculous degree. He was childish, ego-centric, and an obnoxious boor and NOT because he was disagreeable. I usually like Bill's disagreeable guest but this guy was a jerk.
But, wait, I thought violence was wrong? Isn't that what the left preached after Gabby Giffords was shot? So, now, you're telling us all its ok, and you publicly disagree with all of the liberals, Barack Obama included, that said ANY rhetoric even that suggests violence, is wrong?
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Old 07-23-2011, 06:33 PM
 
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Nick took over Bill's show, he was awesome! I've liked him when he was on Napolitano, but he really showed what an intellectual he is on Maher's program. His book is getting great reviews.
Amazon.com: The Declaration of Independents: How Libertarian Politics Can Fix What's Wrong with America (9781586489380): Nick Gillespie, Matt Welch: Books
When asked about his carbon footprint, Bill's facial expression was priceless.
I wanted to catch the discussion afterward on RealTime, but couldn't figure out how that works.

oh, it's up now
http://www.hbo.com/real-time-with-bi...MjKyMQIAYmwXOA==
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Old 07-23-2011, 06:39 PM
 
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But, wait, I thought violence was wrong? Isn't that what the left preached after Gabby Giffords was shot? So, now, you're telling us all its ok, and you publicly disagree with all of the liberals, Barack Obama included, that said ANY rhetoric even that suggests violence, is wrong?
Oh give me a break Literal Lucy. No, I don't think he should have LITERALLY kicked his butt; however, the feeling is there. Violence is wrong.
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Old 07-23-2011, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Palm Springs, CA
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Nick Gillespie is obnoxious. He will shoot down any idea that anyone comes up with to make society better. He's not really even a libertarian, in my opinion. He's essentially an anarchist.
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Old 07-23-2011, 06:53 PM
 
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You know, sometimes I feel like I'm watching a different show than the rest of the people here. I just asked my coworker, who watched, what he thought. He had the same impression I did.

Here's the gist of the conversation on the show that *I* took away from it. Bill started talking about how well Carmageddon worked and he felt like if you just include society in on what the problem is and ask them to help, as long as you make it all clear, people will generally step up to the plate and help out. He called it shared sacrifice. He then went on to say that he heard an interesting fact that if everyone gave up eating meat and cheese for one day that it was the equivalent of saving 91,000 miles of driving (I'm going from memory here).

So, setting the stage for that, the discussion centered around small things that everyone could do that made a difference. For Carmageddon, it made that whole construction project go VERY well. For giving up meat/cheese, it has an environmental impact.

THEN, Nick Gillespie segues in this:

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[LEFT]GILLESPIE: It's always great when somebody else is going to sacrifice because how many cars do you own?
MAHER: I own two.
GILLESPIE: Okay, so would you give up both of them?
MAHER: Both cars?
GILLESPIE: Yeah.
MAHER: Why would I have to give up both cars?
GILLESPIE: Would you give up your TV show? What's the carbon footprint of this show? Maybe, can the world do without it?
Gillespie took the whole direction of the conversation, which was a feel-good thing about the small things people could do and he made it ludicrous. Both Brazile and Maher and looks on their faces like "I've had it with this idiot and what the heck is he going on about." He just went totally over the top with his statement. IMO, it just got weird. Of course Bill looked at him odd--how did we get from behaving during Carmegeddon and cutting back on meat/cheese to Bill giving up his cars and his shows.

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Old 07-23-2011, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Palm Springs, CA
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Gillespie took the whole direction of the conversation, which was a feel-good thing about the small things people could do and he made it ludicrous.
Thank you. You said it better than I could have. And I would have had the same look on my face as Bill Maher did. Gillespie's comments were out of left field.
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Old 07-23-2011, 07:43 PM
 
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Here is the clip.



‪Bill Maher Show " You Must Be Very Proud..."‬‏ - YouTube
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