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Old 07-24-2011, 11:29 AM
 
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How can gays cause pregnancies or abortions as a result of their behavior????
For the 2nd time, I was speaking of all bedroom issues.
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Old 07-24-2011, 11:31 AM
 
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So am I ;its a states rights issue.New york wants it that is fine with me.
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Old 07-24-2011, 11:38 AM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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Perry defends gay marriage as states’ choice; Santorum takes a swipe | Iowa Caucuses

I'm very happy to see this. It's a sign that (maybe) he won't use gay-bashing as a way to win Republican voters, unlike Rick Santorum and Michele Bachmann.

If you want a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriages, it sounds like Rick Perry is not your guy.
I'm going to be honest with you. Opposing democratic party policies meant to buy political patronage is, somehow, gay-bashing? It isn't. I simply do not/cannot support a political party perfecting willing to aid/reward favored demographics at the expense of all others. It's tedious.
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Old 07-24-2011, 11:41 AM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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That's correct. A CA gay couple did just that and tried to get divorced in Texas. They lost.


They should. Texas shouldn't be required to allow gay marriage/divorce just because california does. That couple can simply adjudicate their difficulties..........in california.
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Old 07-24-2011, 11:43 AM
 
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They should. Texas shouldn't be required to allow gay marriage/divorce just because california does. That couple can simply adjudicate their difficulties..........in california.
So should a Texas driver be allowed to drive a motor vehicle in CA just because Texas allows one to do so?
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Old 07-24-2011, 02:04 PM
 
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Presidents have absolutely nothing to do with constitutional amendments. That is between Congress and the States only.
But Presidents can push for constitutional amendments. George W. Bush proposed a federal amendment to ban same-sex marriage, and that got the ball rolling in Congress, so their opinions do matter.
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Old 07-24-2011, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Perry defends gay marriage as states’ choice; Santorum takes a swipe | Iowa Caucuses

I'm very happy to see this. It's a sign that (maybe) he won't use gay-bashing as a way to win Republican voters, unlike Rick Santorum and Michele Bachmann.

If you want a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriages, it sounds like Rick Perry is not your guy.
let's hope he is smart enough to know the gay issues do not belong in politics. Actually Bachmann did say in the last debate, she would not attempt to overturn states right issues, but I do realize what you are saying. It sounds like Perry thinks the way Bush did on this (God I hate to compare him to Bush) actually Obama feels pretty much the same.

Nita
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Old 07-24-2011, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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First of all marriage is not a right for anyone. It's a religious and cultural custom that was codified into law because it was a common practice. I'm against gays trying to make gay marriage equivalent to normal marriage. They are obviously two separate things. That said, I think it's up to the states to make marriage laws because the states are closer to the people. I agree with Rick Perry on this issue.
I share your views on this 100% and my gay foster daughter would agree with you. Gay marriage and equal gay rights when it comes to legal union are totally different.

Nita
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Old 07-24-2011, 06:35 PM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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So should a Texas driver be allowed to drive a motor vehicle in CA just because Texas allows one to do so?
Do california and texas agree on who can drive motor vehicles?
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Old 07-24-2011, 06:40 PM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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Good for Perry! Like we have time right now to worry about gay marriage anyway. So many of the other economically conservative, "get government off our backs" candidates would love to have the federal government enforce their religious or social views. I've been waiting for more like Perry to get in the game. (Gary Johnson is interesting, but unknown.)

The income tax code contains many provisions that fall into the category of "marriage tax." These taxes, without gay marriage, are a tax on heterosexuals. Let's allow gay marriage so the newlyweds can pay higher taxes just like married heterosexuals.
Perry seems to be refering to states rights. I agree with perry. Leave the issue of gay marriage to the states. Don't simply "impose" your cultural norms on everyone else.
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