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'Super Congress': Debt Ceiling Negotiators Aim To Create New Legislative Body
This "Super Congress," composed of members of both chambers and both parties, isn't mentioned anywhere in the Constitution, but would be granted extraordinary new powers. Under a plan put forth by Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and his counterpart Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), legislation to lift the debt ceiling would be accompanied by the creation of a 12-member panel made up of 12 lawmakers -- six from each chamber and six from each party.
Legislation approved by the Super Congress -- which some on Capitol Hill are calling the "super committee" -- would then be fast-tracked through both chambers, where it couldn't be amended by simple, regular lawmakers, who'd have the ability only to cast an up or down vote. With the weight of both leaderships behind it, a product originated by the Super Congress would have a strong chance of moving through the little Congress and quickly becoming law. A Super Congress would be less accountable than the system that exists today, and would find it easier to strip the public of popular benefits. Negotiators are currently considering cutting the mortgage deduction and tax credits for retirement savings, for instance, extremely popular policies that would be difficult to slice up using the traditional legislative process.
It's the same concept behind fast-track approval for international treaties and bilateral agreements. Congress can still vote down proposed legislation, something it has done in the past. Sorry to pop your conspiracy bubble.
It's the same concept behind fast-track approval for international treaties and bilateral agreements. Congress can still vote down proposed legislation, something it has done in the past. Sorry to pop your conspiracy bubble.
Yep, no different than the other dozens of Committees Congress has currently.
It's the same concept behind fast-track approval for international treaties and bilateral agreements. Congress can still vote down proposed legislation, something it has done in the past. Sorry to pop your conspiracy bubble.
Don't kill their fun so fast! Let them run around in circles for a bit.
No wonder Obama is behind this plan. It is a Marxist's dream.
You have wonder if Geitner hasn't been playing both sides.
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It's the same concept behind fast-track approval for international treaties and bilateral agreements. Congress can still vote down proposed legislation, something it has done in the past. Sorry to pop your conspiracy bubble.
You have no clue what you are talking about. It is not the same thing, and it is not in the Constitution. Maybe you didn't read the article:
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Legislation approved by the Super Congress -- which some on Capitol Hill are calling the "super committee" -- would then be fast-tracked through both chambers, where it couldn't be amended by simple, regular lawmakers, who'd have the ability only to cast an up or down vote
If we look at other "fast-track" committees in Congress, we can see major differences:
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Fast-track procedures often include some or all of the following elements:
• a definition of the kinds of bills or resolutions to which the expedited procedures are to apply;
• mandatory introduction of such a measure, often promptly after the House and Senate receive a message that the President is required to submit;
• a requirement for the committee to which the measure is referred to report it within a certain number of days;
• provision for automatic discharge of a committee, or for a privileged motion to discharge, if the measure is not reported within a specified time;
• privileged access for the measure to the House and Senate floor for
consideration;
• limitations on the length of time that each house can debate or consider the measure on the floor;
• prohibitions against Members proposing floor amendments to the measure and offering certain other motions during its consideration; and
• automatic “hookup†procedures that ensure prompt floor action in either house on any companion bill or resolution that the other house has passed.
Clearly the purpose of previous "fast-tracked" legislation was to get it to the floor for a vote, and to prevent it from being blocked or delayed by procedural obstacles, which is what prevents 9 out of 10 bills from every being acted upon.
The Super Congress wants to put a bill before a vote without any debate, and without any scrutiny, because they've "already debated it."
That basically renders your elected representatives irrelevant.
Once that's in place, all you need a super-crisis so Americans throw away all of their rights to be "saved."
Your article is pretty scary if you think about this happening. Obviously it is unconstitutional and since we know about it so soon it should never happen. I doubt that my Representative in the House will go along with this kind thing even if he gets to be one of the 12. That can't happen since he is one of the new ones that is being accused of being a Tea Partier.
Did you notice that the article says only the two parties will be allowed to hav members on the "Super Congress"? That appears to be a way to shut out the Tea Party and surely the GOP won't attempt something like that.
My answer is that it is so unconstitutional that it just can't happen. Yes, allowing only the few Congressmen to tae part these last few days points that direction but I can't believe that the others are ready to become irrelevant to 12 other Congressers.
Don't kill their fun so fast! Let them run around in circles for a bit.
What? i think these bozos want us Americans running around in circles, and circles, and circles. Either that or are heads can explode, from all the bull we are being told.
Don't kill their fun so fast! Let them run around in circles for a bit.
Did Mircea put a damper on your celebration?
Like the majority of Libbies who either can't or wont first READ what they are making fun of .. It's fairly easy to P!$$ on y'alls party!
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