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And you can't see how much money Soros contributes to various organizations like MoveOn and Think Progress to spend on Obama and whatever Soros wants done. When will people like you see that Soros is just one big business man and all the others you talk about are many.
If you feel so strongly about Soros, you must about Koch brothers too? Or, does it happen only one way for you, the other being necessary?
Trust me, I would be first in line to take money out of politics, down to making any corporate investments/giveaways illegal when a person chooses to run for office, and get the idiotic "money is corporate free speech" idea out. Would you be with me, however?
And this second time around his thinking may not be buried by progressives who just happen to be the very people who are pushing for that socialist system.
Considering the state of economy and tax revenue (finally) on the rise, 2006 would have had been the best time in the entire decade to push for balanced budget and reducing deficit. Do you agree?
Did Obama agree with that kind of thinking back then? Does he agree with balancing the budget now? Well sure he does when he asks for $1.2 trillion and wants to give in to $20 million of spending cuts.
If you feel so strongly about Soros, you must about Koch brothers too? Or, does it happen only one way for you, the other being necessary?
Trust me, I would be first in line to take money out of politics, down to making any corporate investments/giveaways illegal when a person chooses to run for office, and get the idiotic "money is corporate free speech" idea out. Would you be with me, however?
You really do believe that some of the names listed among the Obama supporters in 2008 were real and true. I really wonder how many of them got their money from MoveOn. Soros hands money through the Tides Foundation to too many groups for me and then it is distributed by them on down.
How many corporations gave the huge amounts to McCain in 2008 that the unions did to Obama.
Yes, we agree that somehow we should do away with money from corporations or Soros created groups but I don't think we will see that happen soon since people on both sides see only the exchange of money from the other side.
And this second time around his thinking may not be buried by progressives who just happen to be the very people who are pushing for that socialist system.
If you would like to bury his thinking, stop propagating it.
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Did Obama agree with that kind of thinking back then? Does he agree with balancing the budget now? Well sure he does when he asks for $1.2 trillion and wants to give in to $20 million of spending cuts.
I was looking for your opinion. Here's the post again:
"Considering the state of economy and tax revenue (finally) on the rise, 2006 would have had been the best time in the entire decade to push for balanced budget and reducing deficit. Do you agree?"
You really do believe that some of the names listed among the Obama supporters in 2008 were real and true. I really wonder how many of them got their money from MoveOn. Soros hands money through the Tides Foundation to too many groups for me and then it is distributed by them on down.
How many corporations gave the huge amounts to McCain in 2008 that the unions did to Obama.
Yes, we agree that somehow we should do away with money from corporations or Soros created groups but I don't think we will see that happen soon since people on both sides see only the exchange of money from the other side.
But you believe that corporations/rich should be able to spend in politics, as it amounts to free speech. No?
I didn't call names. I made an observation about the high-profile celebutantes who already have made the points -- word-for-word -- that you're attempting to make.
And I'd refute what you wrote, but there really isn't enough substance there in terms of facts to refute it. Essentially, you're saying "Obama is bad", and my proportionate response would be "no he's not." It's not very productive to have that conversation.
You are wrong, I addressed on a point to point the OP's original post.
BTW, I am unsure who Brit Hume is, And though I think Sarah Palin made a good Alaskan governor, I don't think she would make a good president or vp.
Additionally, the last time i heard her speak, it was when McCain was running for president.
I am an educated person who is capable of reading and writing, and also capable of making informed decisions after processing the available data.
here was my post.
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1. Take the Republicans at their word, just like you should take everyone else at their word.
This is a general observation and is and should be accurate for all political parties.
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2. It is not the job of Congress to help govern this nation, their job is to write laws, and pass budgets.
This is a fact and is a part of the constitution, how is this influenced in any way by people you think others are listening to?
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3. Compromise is a 2 way street, so far there has been no real compromise on the part of the President, just on offer to try to compromise at a later date.
Again, a statement about compromise and an object view after reading the materials available concerning the president's plan.
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4. Obama has already destroyed his presidency, he needs no help from anyone else. He has raised this nations debt to a degree that no other president has, and has failed us every step of the way. In fact, I believe based on the current debt levels, this president has increased our nations debt more than all other presidents prior to him combined.
Ok, not quite accurate, more accurate would be the removal of the word "combined", and state that in the first year of Obama's presidency the national debt when up ½ the total of all 8 years of Bush's presidency, and 2/3rds the total of all presidents combined. Additionally the national debt stands at a rate
5. Tell me, how will this shut down government. You do realize of course, that there is still daily income in the form of federal income taxes, excise taxes and import/export duties? There will be enough to cover the functions of government, SS/military pay/va benefits/and most other things. They are worrying about not being able to borrow enough money to make the interest payments on previous borrowing, again, a fact that this pres has borrowed more than all other previous presidents prior to him combined.
Again, how is my above statement inaccurate, with the exception of the word combined?
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6. You may have elected him to lead, and lead he has done, he has lead us to the point of disaster waiting to happen... When it does, you can thank him for his leadership.
Again, please point out any inaccuracy? He has not shown himself to be a leader. A leader doesn't walk out of meetings, and act like a petulant child.
A leader sets the example he want's his or her subordinates to follow. I know, I was a leader at several points of my life, as a father, as a military person, as an employee. I led by example. When assistance to accomplish a task was offered, and it was beneficial, it was accepted, when it was time to co-ordinate with others, we did, and it was necessary to compromise, I did.
As an engineer myself, I should be able to see rationality in what you claim to be that. Instead I see right wing talking points, written to get people high on emotions.
Then point out the irrational points I made based on emotion.
To demonstrate lack of rationality in your arguments, I picked this line.
- Do you think the majority is driven more easily with logic, or by emotions?
- Do you believe that the majority always gets it right?
I wasn't making a point or a comment, I was asking a question, to cite by what information was their supposition made.
There was no argument, only a question to provide information.
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