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Old 07-26-2011, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Well, pedophiles are permanent sex offenders, right? So they're never technically 'ex-cons' and would still be able to be rejected I would think.

I would think this protection would be for people who have served their time and are trying to get back into mainstream society, not those who are repeat offenders or on a permanent offender status.
Does not state that JetJocky..only prior convictions..plural convictions

From the OP link:
"Under a proposal being considered by the city's Human Rights Commission, employees and landlords would be not be allowed to reject people applying for jobs or trying to rent apartments because of prior convictions."
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Old 07-26-2011, 11:50 AM
 
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are you volunteering to hire or rent to a known felon mr. catto?
I've not only been known to rent to ex-felons, I have been known to hire them. If I still had rental property I would rent to them today, if I were hiring anyone and they had the skills that I need I would hire an ex-felon as well. In point of fact, having observed more than a few street level drug dealers in action, I can't think of a more industrious, and entrepreneurial group of individuals. When you think of a guy who can work a street corner from sun-up to well past sun-down, develop extraordinary skills in reducing product shrinkage, innovative point of sale strategies and ways of increasing product profitability without reducing sales, I would think that they would be highly employable. Just like young hackers who get employed in computer security. The only problem is that hackers seem more romantic to corporations than inner city pharmaceutical entrepreneurs.
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Old 07-26-2011, 12:11 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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I've not only been known to rent to ex-felons, I have been known to hire them. If I still had rental property I would rent to them today, if I were hiring anyone and they had the skills that I need I would hire an ex-felon as well. In point of fact, having observed more than a few street level drug dealers in action, I can't think of a more industrious, and entrepreneurial group of individuals. When you think of a guy who can work a street corner from sun-up to well past sun-down, develop extraordinary skills in reducing product shrinkage, innovative point of sale strategies and ways of increasing product profitability without reducing sales, I would think that they would be highly employable. Just like young hackers who get employed in computer security. The only problem is that hackers seem more romantic to corporations than inner city pharmaceutical entrepreneurs.
i would have more sympathy for this plan if it were limited to non-violent felons - drug offenders and the like.
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Old 07-26-2011, 12:13 PM
 
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I thought that was what section 8 housing was for.
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Old 07-26-2011, 12:17 PM
 
Location: California
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There was another thread somewhere and I posted a link showing that SF isn't the first place to do this...other states have been doing similar things for awhile now.
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Old 07-26-2011, 12:20 PM
 
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i would have more sympathy for this plan if it were limited to non-violent felons - drug offenders and the like.
You might get some support from me on that basis. I would point out that as strange as it may seem to some, murders have one of the lowest recidivism rate of any class of offenders, and rarely is the re-offense for a crime of violence.
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Old 07-26-2011, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Fort Worthless, Texastan
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It's lovely hearing from the people who think that people who have served time should not be allowed to function like normal members of society after their time is done. It's like they want ex-inmates (the ones that want to improve themselves, at least) to have such a hard time reorienting themselves that they end up falling back into the world of crime... and let's not even get started on the people who "fell through the cracks" and have rap sheets for stuff, the importance of which is infinitesimal at best...
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