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Old 08-11-2007, 04:05 PM
 
Location: VA
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Should new immigrants in America keep their own language and culture or adopt mostly to the American Culture?
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Old 08-11-2007, 04:28 PM
 
Location: South East UK
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Should new immigrants in America keep their own language and culture or adopt mostly to the American Culture?
Would seem to be very useful to adopt and retain. Two languages and cultures are better than one.
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Old 08-11-2007, 04:47 PM
 
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Should new immigrants in America keep their own language and culture or adopt mostly to the American Culture?
First generation immigrants are usually pretty wedded to old ways and never completely assimilate, unless they move to America as children. Historically, the children of immigrants have assimiliated completely, although that has changed, partly because of the spread of multiculturalist ideology and partly as a consequence of changes in immigration law.

From 1791 to 1952, immigration to the United States was limited to Whites. From 1952 to 1965, persons of other races were permitted to immigrate in proportion to their respective share of the U.S. population in the year 1920. Since 1965 there have been no official limitations on immigration according to race or national origin, although in practice nonwhites are now favored.

White immigrants and their children should assimilate American culture to the extent that they can--and they normally do. Nonwhite immigrants cannot be expected to do this, nor should we encourage them to do so. Since they don't blend ethnically with the historic American nation, attempts at cultural approximation result in confusion about national identity.

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Old 08-11-2007, 05:39 PM
 
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The melting pot worked quite well in this country until we had and have a certain Mexican culture that has now taken over and refuses to assimilate. Why should they really? Our idiotic government gives them whatever they need no matter if they are illegal or if they decided to never waste any of their time speaking or learning our language. We should go back to the way it used to be with freebies at all, no matter what, not even healthcare, unless one is legally here or a citizen. If one is legally here then free healthcare is ok but nothing else. PERIOD!!!! If you stopped the freebies and went after the employers hard and made them stop hiring the illegals they would mostly self deport. Then we could round up the ones who did not, and using racial profiling if necessary. They should be given the choice of taking their children, the anchor children, with them to their home country or leave them with legal relatives or put up for adoption b y citizens. They should be deported with nothing but the clothes on their backs since anything and everything they could or would possibly have was gotten by illegal means b ecause they were here in the first place illegally.

You have also got to make sure the employers of the illegals need to be fined and arrested and do time if necessary, but the facts are that the businesses must know that they will lose it all if they hire illegals.
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Old 08-11-2007, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Almost all second generation immigrants learn the English language and culture, although as Famenity has suggested, many are smart enough to retain their own language as well. What is the point of the question?
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Old 08-11-2007, 07:23 PM
 
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It is not that they retain their own language or culture, which would be fine. It is that the English language and culture takes a super back seat to their own language and culture. That is what the melting pot always meant, that people would retain their culture and language but assimilate into our culture and be American. Don't you dar say that the majority of Mexicans and other illegals are assimilating into our cultere because they are njot at all and have no plans to in fact.

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Old 08-11-2007, 07:29 PM
 
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Multiculturalism has the potential to destroy America as we know it. Just look at Britain and France and the problems they are now facing with the Muslim and Arab immigrants demanding rights and the civil unrest they create when their demands are not met. Caving to these demands just opens a floodgate of other problems, due to the lack of requirement in the immigration standards that require them to assimilate.

I can see the Hispanic lobby causing the same type of problems as the Arabs in western europe.

American culture has always allowed a certain amount of ethnic pride and culture to exist in a limited form, such as China Towns and Little Italy's, which is fine. But this trend of printing several languages in normal daily life to accomodate those that choose to NOT assimilate is heading us down a slippery slope.

I like America the way it has been for hundreds of years. I would like to see it stay that way.
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Old 08-11-2007, 07:39 PM
 
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Multiculturalism has the potential to destroy America as we know it. Just look at Britain and France and the problems they are now facing with the Muslim and Arab immigrants demanding rights and the civil unrest they create when their demands are not met. Caving to these demands just opens a floodgate of other problems, due to the lack of requirement in the immigration standards that require them to assimilate.

I can see the Hispanic lobby causing the same type of problems as the Arabs in western europe.

American culture has always allowed a certain amount of ethnic pride and culture to exist in a limited form, such as China Towns and Little Italy's, which is fine. But this trend of printing several languages in normal daily life to accomodate those that choose to NOT assimilate is heading us down a slippery slope.

I like America the way it has been for hundreds of years. I would like to see it stay that way.
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Be careful because there seems to be a bunch of multiculturists here in these forums and they have been educated by the liberal diversity crazies. You are absolutely right with your post but of course it is not going to stay the same because these young yuppis who believe in the diversity god can't take a moment to learn the history of the country and what it has stood for. They of course never look at what is happening to Europe and Australia either. Those continents are literally being DESTROYED by the god of multiculturism.
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Old 08-11-2007, 07:42 PM
 
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Mexicans and other illegals
Hmm its odd how you instantly assumed that the Mexican immagrants are illegal... =/
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Old 08-11-2007, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Venice, Fl
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I have had far too many posts deleted by moderators on the immigration forums to get into this debate. I think I'll play Switzerland this time and sit this 1 out
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