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Old 07-28-2011, 02:53 PM
 
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A portion of the existing IRS agents. The rest...well, bye.
LOL good luck relying on retailers to be the tax collectors. It will NEVER work and it would decimate retail.
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Old 07-28-2011, 02:54 PM
 
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People will try. Syracuse lost a few good restaurants because the owners got caught screwing with their sales tax receipts. And that's with an 8% sales tax.

With a much larger national sales tax....err...I mean Fair Tax...added, the wave of businesses being closed by the Feds will be enough to cause a national recession.
You get it
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Old 07-28-2011, 04:47 PM
 
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What seems dumb to me is to keep handing money over to a govt that handles things as badly as they do.

Seems the only smart part about it is paying the mafia off so they don't harass you, however, that usually doesn't end well either.
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Old 07-28-2011, 04:49 PM
 
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LOL good luck relying on retailers to be the tax collectors. It will NEVER work and it would decimate retail.
All retailers do this now. (don't know any that don't anyway) It's electronic and automated in volume and they get a small portion to do so.
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Old 07-29-2011, 10:32 AM
 
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People will try. Syracuse lost a few good restaurants because the owners got caught screwing with their sales tax receipts. And that's with an 8% sales tax.

With a much larger national sales tax....err...I mean Fair Tax...added, the wave of businesses being closed by the Feds will be enough to cause a national recession.
LOL, but you trust individual taxpayers to keep honest on their filings?
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Old 07-29-2011, 11:02 AM
 
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All retailers do this now. (don't know any that don't anyway) It's electronic and automated in volume and they get a small portion to do so.
Does your local paper publish a list of businesses that are delinquent on their sales tax payments? Some business owners spend the collected sales tax dollars and don't have it for the automatic withdrawal.
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Old 07-29-2011, 01:01 PM
 
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Who would enforce the Fair Tax?
The individual states would enforce and collect the Fair Tax and forward the proceeds to the federal government. However, each state cannot dip into the Fair Tax revenues to pay for oversight and enforcement. Fair Tax proponents correctly point out that most states already collect state sales taxes so that it should not be so burdensome for the states to collect the Fair Tax from those same sources. What the aforementioned proponents ignore is that the Fair Tax applies to services as well as new consumer goods. So the states would actually have to track down all service vendors, register them, oversee their payments and hunt down and prosecute the Fair Tax delinquints.

Think of it as just another unfunded mandate from Washington, DC.
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Old 07-29-2011, 01:04 PM
 
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Yes, because people go out of their way to buy things under the table to avoid state sales tax.
Make the tax large enough and people will find ways.

Tobacco taxes are particularily heinous, so people buy their cigarettes mail order from North Carolina. There's no state tobacco tax there, so the price is significantly lower. But these people paid with their credit cards, leaving a paper trail. 5 years ago, the states audited those paper trails and sent out large tax bills to the scofflaws.
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