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Old 07-28-2011, 05:55 PM
 
Location: FL
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Originally Posted by andrea3821 View Post
It will certainly be interesting to see how everyone votes. I'm not happy, either. CC&B was where it's at, it was a good compromise, IMO.
It wasn't compromise at all that is why it was DOA when they wrote it and when it went to the Senate. They knew it wasn't going up for a vote but they wasted time.
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Old 07-28-2011, 05:56 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Take annual revenue (lets assume it's 5 trillion) and subtract it from the current spending levels (assuming 7 trillion). Split the 2 trillion deficit down the middle and COMPROMISE with 1 trillion in immediate spending cuts and a 1 trillion in immediate tax increases. Neither will be popular but it's a fair split. Follow that with a balanced budget amendment to the constitution. Problem solved.

Now it'll never, ever happen because republicans don't want tax increases and democrats can't whipe their own butts without goverment assistance so they'll never agree to spending cuts.

Result: eventual decrease in the nations credit rating followed by reduced ability to borrow money and the inevitable spending cuts and tax increases that nobody wants now. So it's all just politics. The money WILL eventually run out and you silly government dependant democrats are gonna take it on the chin simply because you allow yourself to be government dependant. Me, I'm fully self sufficient and although a crappy economy hurts my ability to earn a living, I'll survive without having to riot in the streets demanding that Uncle Sam come pay for my education, or housing, or healthcare or retirement.

I'll also sleep good tonight knowing I'm paying all my bills and some of yours.
I was thinking now here is a good idea and then you threw in all that other crap.
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Old 07-28-2011, 06:05 PM
 
Location: FL
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Only so much they can do controlling one chamber of Congress and a veto pen waiting.

WAIT for 2012 - the country will be ready to throw obama and the dems out and then, we can get things done.

They've passed the bills they said they would pass.
except the problem seems to be that they don't have enough votes right now and they are the majority. Don't you find that funny?
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Old 07-28-2011, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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except the problem seems to be that they don't have enough votes right now and they are the majority. Don't you find that funny?
This mess clarifies, if it wasn't clear before, why the TP contingent needs to go.
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Old 07-28-2011, 06:14 PM
 
Location: The Twilight Zone
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It wasn't compromise at all that is why it was DOA when they wrote it and when it went to the Senate. They knew it wasn't going up for a vote but they wasted time.
Proper protocol is to debate it, amend it and send it back for reconsideration.

Saying NO right off the bat as the dmes did, says it all about what their real goal is.
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Old 07-28-2011, 06:16 PM
 
Location: The Twilight Zone
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This mess clarifies, if it wasn't clear before, why the TP contingent needs to go.

Actually no. The Tea Party has it right. It is the career politicians who had and have it wrong. If they had it right, we would not be in this deep now. Please stop listening to the talking points on TV.
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Old 07-28-2011, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Thanks to Congressman Franks anyone who votes for this bill is voting to make the Grand Canyon a toxic Waste Dump.
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Old 07-28-2011, 06:20 PM
 
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The only elections that matter are on the state and local level
I wish that were the case, but hopefully we can all work toward making it a reality.
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Old 07-28-2011, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Riverside
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I kept telling you guys. Expect nothing spectacular from the GOP, and expect them to flipflop on their campaign promises and, generally, not do much. I knew nothing much was going to change after 2010 and I was right. Just like electing a run-of-the-mill Republican is not gonna do much to change anything. Expect the same Progressive policy since FDR regardless which party is in power. The only elections that matter are on the state and local level
The GOP is trying to double-cross it's base (like usual), and the Frankenstein Tea Party won't let them!

GOP Establishment to Tea Party: "Ah c'mon, guys- you really didn't think we were serious with all that "Stop spending!" crapola, did you? That was just so we could sneak back into power. Haven't you ever heard of election rhetoric? "

I find all this amusing- the GOP trying to put the Tea Party monster back in its cage!
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Old 07-28-2011, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Orlando
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Let me understand.... The OP is upset the Repubs are cutting the budget?

These are the same rebups that under Regan took us from a deficit of about $979B and tripled that to $3T... Then under Clinton a surplus was created and spending under control... Clinton was the Democrat remember... Then under Bush the last Repub... the surplus was squandered in 1 year and our deficit went to 10.5T . Then he passed the wall street bailout before leaving office which pointed us towards another T of the debt, and the war which countered for another T

So you have a party that has done nothing but spend and squander and you think they will be the ones to cut and save? Ummm history just keeps handing you a different outcome and you act surprised..... Can we say dumba$$

Now you have the Repugs about to default the US which will be felt in your credit availability, the amount of interest charged on student loans, credit cards, homes, and cars. So the economy is about to come to a trainwreck halt. and I bet you will blame it on the democrats.... you know those that proposed a 3T in cuts and 1T in expiring tax breaks on those over 250k... and the repubs only wanted 2t in cuts...

the selective vision among repubs is amazing. I think the term is cognitive dissonance... good lluck with that "we are gonna cut and savey" thing...
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