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Typical lib can't refute the post so runs and hides.
ROFL...He asked you repeatedly for your proof or links to prove the truth of what you said. You danced all around it in circles and loops, but never answered.
Always amused to see the conservatives rail against the post office. The USPS in its additional founding is meant to unprofitable. We are not meant to run this service provided to the people as a business. It is a service and benefit provided to us for having a civilization. We as a collective people have decided that part of the function government provides to us besides "safety" are civil services like a post office, drivable roads, etc. that make our lives as inconvenienced as possible.
Conservatives railing against it is the bestest kind of irony, since teabaggers and republicans tend to come from the places that get the most benefit from it being socialized (i.e. millions of pounds of mail goes from, say, NY to LA, in massive bulk flights. Very little mail goes to Hogswallow, Kentucky. The cost per parcel for delivery to small towns is astronomical compared to major cities).
But don't bother to tell them that. No matter what, it's still evil kenyan muslim communism nazi Obama socializing our freedoms to Soviet Hitlerstan.
Then you need to explain all this to the post office IG who is asking congress for a payment of 75 billion dollars from the US Treasury. I'd use email though as the snail mail tends to get behind sometimes.
ROFL...He asked you repeatedly for your proof or links to prove the truth of what you said. You danced all around it in circles and loops, but never answered.
Really? I believe my answer was spot on. Can you refute it?
Then you need to explain all this to the post office IG who is asking congress for a payment of 75 billion dollars from the US Treasury. I'd use email though as the snail mail tends to get behind sometimes.
Seeing as the Postal Service is one of the few things that the Constitution actually grants Congress the power to spend money on, I'm fine with it. I don't even care (much) if it doesn't break even.
It's kinda funny (funny peculiar, not funny ha-ha) that a lot of the same people who support all kinds of unconstitutional things such as socialized health care and the like are the same people who want to see the postal service slashed or eliminated. It almost seems as if they're anti-Constitution...
The reason a postal service and post roads were specifically put in the Constitution was the founders recognized that a communications system was needed if Americans were going to have a functioning nation. To Communicate, Mail was all they had available in 18th Century America, New fangled things like Western Union Telegraphs and Railroads were a few score years in the future. I wonder what old Ben Franklin would have made of Twitter or WiFi.
What is making it so unprofitable are the lavish pensions they promise everyone that ever worked there.
They should cut those in half or get rid of them altogether!
You can pay all your bills on line, you can get your paycheck through direct deposit, you can send someone a message via email or text, you can wire money with Wester Union, and you can send a package with UPS or Fed Ex.
Unfortunately, I think the law currently says that private companies such as UPS and FedEx are forbidden from delivering First Class mail. This needs to be changed.
I also agree that delivery service could easily be cut back to four or five days a week - maybe even three days a week would be sufficient.
I'd also like to see bulk mail rates go up. Most of what I get in the mail is junk advertising.
Under the enumerated powers, the Constitution grants Congress power to establish post offices and postal roads, but doesn't require either. With that in mind, I see no reason it can't simply go away.
Quite a dilemma for the liberals though. On one hand, going electronic saves trees and fossil fuels, but on the other, it eliminates useless overpaid government workers.
It still provides a valid service and should not be done away with, but it needs to be reorganized and downsized to the point where it at least pays for itself. (It needs not make a profit...that was not the point to begin with.)
Unfortunately this means service will need to be cut, workers laid off, and offices shuttered. You simply cannot fight progress in this case. Deal.
I never said anything about a bailout? They did lose 8.5 billion dollars last year. Now are crying to congress for money.
How many PO boxes do you think one can build with 8.5 billion dollars?? I'd say plenty but with union contractors doing it I'd guess it would take twenty years and come in a couple hundred percent over budget. Why should anybody support a business model that loses 8.5 billion dollars is my question. Status quo isnt' working. You can howl away all you want about what you know but what you know isn't working. Are you Obama or something?
OK, the "everyone gets a PO box" is the single most idiotic thing I've read on CF. Congrats. Nevermind the boxes themself, think of the parking! Think of the people who don't drive! Think of the elderly and shut ins and rural folk! Jesus.
I think they should just cut the number of service days. Simple
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