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Old 07-28-2011, 09:42 PM
 
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Old 07-28-2011, 09:45 PM
 
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The typical Obama supporter couldn't name an Obama policy.
The typical Obama supporter today is not a liberal.
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Old 07-28-2011, 10:04 PM
 
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The typical Obama supporter couldn't name an Obama policy.
The middle east looks exactly the same to me...and that is a huge frickin issue. I believe that is how Obama got elected. I have no problem admitting it, but I am not a democrat. Liberal, but not a democrat.
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Old 07-28-2011, 10:31 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Default Where do I start?

Bush had the greatest HINDSIGHT of any previous President, yet failed miserably. He was even given a surplus. His presidency is universally recognized as a failure. The party he represents is incompetent and supports bigotry and racial insensitivity. His party sought to protect the rich, while everyone else went to hell. Bush thought it was OK to attack sovereign nations unprovoked, engaging this country in two costly and failed ideological wars. He severely mismanaged these wars that he LIED in gaining congressional approval, then LIED again about their progress so he could get reelected. His domestic policy was an utter failure, across the board. Health care crisis he ignored. Street gang crisis out of countrol. Illegal immigration more common than the common cold. Bush allowed more holes in the border than stars in the sky. His policy of deregulation ultimately caused the worst oil spill in history. It also allowed banks to profit from predatory lending practices, creating a housing and mortgage crisis. Under his policies, while the executives and rich were enjoying record perks and skating through life fat, dumb, and happy, the rest of the country was neglected as unemployment rose and products were cheaper than foreign alternatives. Under his policies, american companies overwhelmingly favored cheaper foreign labor in displacing millions of qualified americans. Under Bush, it was fashionable to be a racist and a bigot, as deregulation allowed companies to discriminate unchecked. He was responsible for screwing up the Supreme Court, appointing right-wing imbeciles like Roberts who represent a severe regression in the Court's makeup. So on and so forth. It is also critical to realize that George Bush didn't have the MISFORTUNE of succeeding HIMSELF, strapped with the most pathetic version of the GOP in Congress in recent memory, and a record deficit going in. There was no Tea party during his reign. No GOP opposition to his excessive, wasteful spending. No GOP concern about the deficit he ran up. No one complaining about is skin color. Bush had it easy but was an utter failure.

President Obama did have the great misfortune of succeeding the worst man to reside in the oval office in the history of this nation, Dubya. He has tackled the monumental task of resuscitating this country from Bush/GOP disastrous, ineffective policies, and has had to work with the useless obstructionists that define the GOP in Congress. He has thrived in this role, stressing the fact that "ideological purity does not solve problems." He's far more versatile than any Republican, willing to reach across the table, willing to listen seriously to the other side. The problem is that the "other side" is useless. Worthless ideas, ineffective history, narrow-mindedness, and true rigidity. President Obama has done an incredible job with the mess he was given and continued GOP opposition. He is the most scrutinized President in history. He and his party do not represent bigots, racists, or the most racially-insensitive segment of the country. His cause is far superior to that of the GOP, because he sides with those who the GOP discards because they're not among the privileged. He was effective and intelligent enough to get bin Laden, something Bush couldn't do. Instead of sending a "shock and awe" display to Libya in a "go it alone" Texas showdown, he chose to support NATO efforts and not declare war. He has had the task of winding down those worthless Bush wars. His policies are far superior to anything Pubs have come up with, and he has to work with Pubs in Congress whose sole intent is to make him fail, not help the country heal from the Bush years. He is the first President in history that is criticized because of only his SKIN COLOR, signifying the level of pervasive ignorance that defines the GOP narrative. Subtract this meaningless GOP narrative from the evaluation of his performance, and his presidency is universally considered a RESOUNDING SUCCESS.

This is why the entire free world let out a collective sigh of relief when Bush left in '08. This is why we are fortunate that this great President Obama will be elected to a second term....and don't you forget it either.
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Old 07-28-2011, 10:35 PM
 
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For the same reason that conservatives hate Obama's policies, but not Bush's .
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Old 07-28-2011, 10:39 PM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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Five words====Because he's a liberal too!!!!!!!
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Old 07-28-2011, 10:51 PM
 
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Why do r's hate Obama's policies when they loved Bush's?
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Old 07-28-2011, 11:05 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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I don't think many conservatives liked Bush's policies, now neo-conservatives, you might have a point. Bush and Obama are both oligarchical corporatist, neo-conservatives.
Conservatives loved President Bush's policies when they worked and contributed to the glory of conservatism. When those policies stopped doing that, then conservatives put him on the "15-day RINO list".

Liberals are the same way. As well as libertarians, moderates, greenies, etc. That bandwagon is easy to hop on and off of.
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Old 07-28-2011, 11:07 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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They are about 90% the same. Not really understanding all this love for Obama, but not for Bush. Maybe the (D) next to the name has something to do with it.

Maybe starting and then horribly mismanaging two wars has something to do with it.

Just sayin'...
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Old 07-28-2011, 11:55 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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Bush campaigned as a "compassionate conservative" with moderate views, but governed as a complete corporate lapdog. In nearly all the choices he made, corporate power and pleasing the conservative base trumped governing for all Americans. He was extremely partisan, and unreflective. And he needed this slimeball strategist called Karl Rove around to make sure that every decision he made was more to gain pure political advantage rather than to serve all Americans.

Of course Iraq defined his Presidency. He lied repeatedly to get it going, deflected our attention from Afghanistan and Bin Laden, and cut taxes twice to ensure that the effort would bankrupt the country (I'm not saying he did this intentionally, but it is illustrative of his lack of forethought and general irresponsibility and incompetence). Leading our country into an unfunded war was both an egregious lie, and made our name dirt around the world.

Obama has done nothing like this. He is trying to serve America, not simply his base. And even the dreaded "ObamaCare" was an effort to serve the needs of Americans. There is simply no comparison. Obama may yet be brought down by a terrible economy and a shockingly nasty opposing party, but he already is ten times the President of W. His speeches will be in the history books.

W's presidency will be remembered by deceit, torture, and the images of him preening on an air craft carrier saying "Mission Accomplished."
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